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Date: 27/02/2012 11:42 pm

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes
      (P. Subramani)
   2. how a VI can be independent ? (Uma VR)
   3. For guidance of deleting all email in 1 way (shafik shaikh)
   4. Re: how a VI can be independent ? (Vamshi. G)
   5. Re: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules! (Vamshi. G)
   6. Re: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules! (P. Subramani)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:50:38 +0530
From: "P. Subramani" <[email protected]>
To: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]>,
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
        diabetes
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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed the said 
posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast whether 
disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But after due 
verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Asudani, Rajesh 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes


  Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for blind?
  If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than alleged 
diabetes.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes

  Hi,

  I thought  you could have gained some attention by putting more
  appropriate subject line which  explicitly states the story.  hence I
  have changed the subject line.

  First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
  on the ground of a disease (diabetes).  So, I doubt whether PWD Act
  applies to this case.
  We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
  such diseases .

  Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
  disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial.  So,
  if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
  shouldn't be.  however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.

  You may hear more from legal experts.


  --
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  On 2/18/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
  > A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical
  > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern
  > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
  > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person
  > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This
  > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:10:00 +0530
From: Uma VR <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AI] how a VI can be independent ?
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good evening friends,
I hope any of you can give me suggestions.
I have completed LL.B with utmost difficulty. now, my problem is with
regard to scanning all the law books. I am doing the scanning work on
my own. but, while coming to point of editing, I am having many
problems. there I need the help of the sighted. I found that there are
many errors in the text which I have scanned. it is very difficult for
me to do editing work on my own. but any way I am doing it.

now, my querry is how a VI advocate is able to scan and read all the
books. the reason why I ask this question is when someone asks us
about  any section, we have to refer to the particular book. i think
it is not possible for us to scan and keep with us all the books. if
at all we have scanned books with us, we have to do proof reading. it
is very difficult to do proof reading rather than doing scanning. I am
taking 45 minutes to edit one page and that too with great difficulty
by staining my eyes.

so, friends, please give me suggestions for the following
1. is there any way to get error free text after scanning and
converting it into text.
2. is there any efficient way of proof reading?
3. is there any other way to get books other than scanning?

I dont know Brail. so, please give suggestions other than getting
books in brail format.
thank you in advance
there is nothing impossible except the word impossible.



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:22:31 +0530
From: shafik shaikh <[email protected]>
To: accessindia <[email protected]>
Subject: [AI] For guidance of deleting all email in 1 way
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Hello and Good evening sir,
I'm Shaikh Shafik and I want to know that How to delete all email in 1 way?
You can reply me by email,
My  email ID is [email protected],
Mobile no: 8905170243,



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:33:28 +0530
From: "Vamshi. G" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent ?
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Hi Uma,

well, there might be a few books available in electronic format.  And
publishers like Pearson are considering selling books in e format.
And subscribing to book share may help to some extent.  Inclusive
planet will also do its bit.

But this still remains a major issue of concern for visually
challenged people, especially in areas like law where reading material
is voluminous.  Once Rajesh sir has written a very good mail clearly
explaining the challenges faced in the profession of law.  I remember
forwarding the same mail to you.  Go through it again.


On 2/27/12, Uma VR <[email protected]> wrote:
> good evening friends,
> I hope any of you can give me suggestions.
> I have completed LL.B with utmost difficulty. now, my problem is with
> regard to scanning all the law books. I am doing the scanning work on
> my own. but, while coming to point of editing, I am having many
> problems. there I need the help of the sighted. I found that there are
> many errors in the text which I have scanned. it is very difficult for
> me to do editing work on my own. but any way I am doing it.
>
> now, my querry is how a VI advocate is able to scan and read all the
> books. the reason why I ask this question is when someone asks us
> about  any section, we have to refer to the particular book. i think
> it is not possible for us to scan and keep with us all the books. if
> at all we have scanned books with us, we have to do proof reading. it
> is very difficult to do proof reading rather than doing scanning. I am
> taking 45 minutes to edit one page and that too with great difficulty
> by staining my eyes.
>
> so, friends, please give me suggestions for the following
> 1. is there any way to get error free text after scanning and
> converting it into text.
> 2. is there any efficient way of proof reading?
> 3. is there any other way to get books other than scanning?
>
> I dont know Brail. so, please give suggestions other than getting
> books in brail format.
> thank you in advance
> there is nothing impossible except the word impossible.
>
>
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Mobile: +91 9949349497
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[email protected]
Skype: gvamshi81

www.retinaindia.org
>From darkness unto light



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:40:09 +0530
From: "Vamshi. G" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
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Hi Vivek,

Since you have quoted my example, let me answer it.   In that case,
one of our own legal expert, Mr. Rajesh Asudani helped that person in
guiding him to the right channel.  That person got the job by
following the advice.



On 2/27/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!you are absolutely right, there seems
> groups within the larger group.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: sanjay
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:04 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>   AS per my observations, unless you are personally/virtually known to many
>   people in a particular group, no matter how important the subject you
> raise,
>   your mails may not get the amount of attention as per your expectations.
>
>
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www.retinaindia.org
>From darkness unto light



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:55:59 +0530
From: "P. Subramani" <[email protected]>
To: "Umesha Economics" <[email protected]>,  "Access India"
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
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Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!If your answers/arguments (strong) are 
genuent, surely, thoses can be brought to the list irrespective to the 
moderator's rulings. If you don't have time, why do you  send such replies.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Umesha Economics 
  To: Access India ; P. Subramani 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  I have strong answers to all of your arguments. but I don't want to answer 
because of 2 reasons. 1. I have no time for arguing for unproductive things and 
convincing the insensitive minds. 2. the moderator has given his ruling and it 
would be inappropriate on my part if I overrule his statement. I request the 
moderator to excuse me if I have violated the rules. 

  Umesha



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: P. Subramani 
    To: Umesha Economics ; [email protected] 
    Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 5:50 PM
    Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


    these are just vague excuses. By mistake, someone posts an off-topic 
matter, most if not all are up in arms against the poster. I don't agree with 
the notion that subjectline doesn't indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic 
mails can catch the attention of why not a mail routed   through the moderator? 
Subjectline is quitre as the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules 
thereon. Also my mail is very clear and his age was mentioned as more details 
would be of help. Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, 
what about those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's 
comments that all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of 
the issue. Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of 
the delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary button 
and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not the 
person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main issue.  I 
shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them. Moreover,  you have 
failed to read my mail completely and understand as well.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Umesha Economics 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
      Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


      dear friends,
      sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
      modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 11:50
      am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body
      and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments, 
there
      may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
      problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to 
the
      real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any
      message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning
      problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the subject
      line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not interests
      them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not clear.
      whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you 
found
      out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which
      govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through RTI
      or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of
      person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification? 
or
      you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the late
      age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
      other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they
      want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people will
      not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in
      their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply only
      if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need not
      reply to every message.

      so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they
      are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with 
knowledge
      and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have 
seen
      no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator is
      nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but other
      than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one
      among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other 
blind.
      this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is
      serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on the
      matters, you have to see all these aspects.
      regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be
      useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I also
      feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and 
others
      and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I feel so.
      but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to those
      having mobiles.
      so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and
      unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.

      Umesha

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "P. Subramani" <[email protected]>
      To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" <[email protected]>;
      <[email protected]>
      Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
      Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


      > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your 
excellent
      > suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the channels
      > suggested, surely,  i may not have the right to criticize the listers, 
but
      > for this specific matter. I too have undergone the non-responses from
      > listers on many of my posts for which I didn't react respecting the
      > members' rights and all such posts were individual requirements. But 
this
      > present case is affecting the masses. If not for such specific cases, I 
do
      > not outburst. Surely you will appreciate the gravity of the matter
      > especially the employment seekers point of view.
      >  ----- Original Message -----
      >  From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
      >  To: [email protected]
      >  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
      >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
      >
      >
      >  Hello,
      >  Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
      >  forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
      >  listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
      >  negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
      >  such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
      >  criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
      >  posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
      >  their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
      >  the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
      >  cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
      >  a number of times but I never complained.
      >
      >
      >  On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
      >  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your
      > contention of
      >  > listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few
      > fine.
      >  > But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
      > especially
      >  > the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced 
to
      >  > question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This
      > matter is
      >  > more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
      > terrible
      >  > that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I
      > am
      >  > absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
      >  >   ----- Original Message -----
      >  >   From: Bharat
      >  >   To: [email protected]
      >  >   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
      >  >   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
      >  >
      >  >
      >  >   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to 
your
      >  >   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise 
that,
      >  >   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own 
decision.
      >  >   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to 
the
      >  >   list.
      >  >
      >  >   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
      >  >   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
      >  >   > ----- Original Message -----
      >  >   > From: P. Subramani
      >  >   > To: Kotian, H P ; [email protected]
      >  >   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
      >  >   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
      >  >   >
      >  >   >
      >  >   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from
      > any
      >  > group
      >  >   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every
      > blind
      >  >   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members 
of
      > this
      >  >   > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling
      > with
      >  >   > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile
      > discussions on
      >  >   > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members')
      > part to
      >  >   > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are
      > posted by
      >  >   > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile 
reactions.
      > I
      >  > just
      >  >   > wonder  whether this group is just a talking shop for some
      > non-sensical
      >  >   > matters?  Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group,
      > this
      >  > issue
      >  >   > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by
      > saying
      >  > this
      >  >   > group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to 
the
      >  > issues
      >  >   > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from
      >  > discussing
      >  >   > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning 
the
      >  > blind.
      >  >   > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up
      > necessary
      >  >   > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P.
      > Subramani
      >  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
      >  >   >   From: Kotian, H P
      >  >   >   To: [email protected]
      >  >   >   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
      >  >   >   Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
      >  >   >
      >  >   >
      >  >   >   Hello
      >  >   >   Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
      >  >   >   Harish Kotian
      >  >   >
      >  >   >
      >  >   >   Quoting:
      >  >   >
      >  >   >
      >  >   >   From: P. Subramani <mailto:[email protected]>
      >  >   >   To: accessindia <mailto:[email protected]>
      >  >   >   Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
      >  >   >   Subject: Recruitment rules!
      >  >   >
      >  >   >   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while 
undergoing
      >  > medical
      >  >   > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
      >  > Southwestern
      >  >   > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard.
      > From
      >  >   > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification.
      > The
      >  > person
      >  >   > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from
      > all.
      >  > This
      >  >   > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
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