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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes
(P. Subramani)
2. how a VI can be independent ? (Uma VR)
3. For guidance of deleting all email in 1 way (shafik shaikh)
4. Re: how a VI can be independent ? (Vamshi. G)
5. Re: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules! (Vamshi. G)
6. Re: Fw: FW: Recruitment rules! (P. Subramani)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:50:38 +0530
From: "P. Subramani" <[email protected]>
To: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of
diabetes
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Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetesIndeed the
said posts come under the said list. Initially there were doubts cast
whether disqualification is due to diabetes alone or otherwise. But after
due verification through various channels, its indeed diabetes only.
----- Original Message -----
From: Asudani, Rajesh
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes
Whether the post of Group D in question was identified/reserved for
blind?
If no, I am afraid the disqualification may have other reasons than
alleged diabetes.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AI] Blind person denied job in railways because of diabetes
Hi,
I thought you could have gained some attention by putting more
appropriate subject line which explicitly states the story. hence I
have changed the subject line.
First, this disqualification is not on the ground of disability, but
on the ground of a disease (diabetes). So, I doubt whether PWD Act
applies to this case.
We should find out whether government can disqualify on the ground of
such diseases .
Second, I heard of some case where a person with HIV positive has been
disqualified and the court gave the ruling against such denial. So,
if HIV positive can't be denied a job, sure a person with diabetes
shouldn't be. however I'm not sure of any concrete legal remedy.
You may hear more from legal experts.
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From darkness unto light
On 2/18/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
> A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
medical
> examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
Southwestern
> Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
> whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The
person
> is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all.
This
> is very urgent. P. Subramani d
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:10:00 +0530
From: Uma VR <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AI] how a VI can be independent ?
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good evening friends,
I hope any of you can give me suggestions.
I have completed LL.B with utmost difficulty. now, my problem is with
regard to scanning all the law books. I am doing the scanning work on
my own. but, while coming to point of editing, I am having many
problems. there I need the help of the sighted. I found that there are
many errors in the text which I have scanned. it is very difficult for
me to do editing work on my own. but any way I am doing it.
now, my querry is how a VI advocate is able to scan and read all the
books. the reason why I ask this question is when someone asks us
about any section, we have to refer to the particular book. i think
it is not possible for us to scan and keep with us all the books. if
at all we have scanned books with us, we have to do proof reading. it
is very difficult to do proof reading rather than doing scanning. I am
taking 45 minutes to edit one page and that too with great difficulty
by staining my eyes.
so, friends, please give me suggestions for the following
1. is there any way to get error free text after scanning and
converting it into text.
2. is there any efficient way of proof reading?
3. is there any other way to get books other than scanning?
I dont know Brail. so, please give suggestions other than getting
books in brail format.
thank you in advance
there is nothing impossible except the word impossible.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:22:31 +0530
From: shafik shaikh <[email protected]>
To: accessindia <[email protected]>
Subject: [AI] For guidance of deleting all email in 1 way
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Hello and Good evening sir,
I'm Shaikh Shafik and I want to know that How to delete all email in 1
way?
You can reply me by email,
My email ID is [email protected],
Mobile no: 8905170243,
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:33:28 +0530
From: "Vamshi. G" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] how a VI can be independent ?
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Hi Uma,
well, there might be a few books available in electronic format. And
publishers like Pearson are considering selling books in e format.
And subscribing to book share may help to some extent. Inclusive
planet will also do its bit.
But this still remains a major issue of concern for visually
challenged people, especially in areas like law where reading material
is voluminous. Once Rajesh sir has written a very good mail clearly
explaining the challenges faced in the profession of law. I remember
forwarding the same mail to you. Go through it again.
On 2/27/12, Uma VR <[email protected]> wrote:
good evening friends,
I hope any of you can give me suggestions.
I have completed LL.B with utmost difficulty. now, my problem is with
regard to scanning all the law books. I am doing the scanning work on
my own. but, while coming to point of editing, I am having many
problems. there I need the help of the sighted. I found that there are
many errors in the text which I have scanned. it is very difficult for
me to do editing work on my own. but any way I am doing it.
now, my querry is how a VI advocate is able to scan and read all the
books. the reason why I ask this question is when someone asks us
about any section, we have to refer to the particular book. i think
it is not possible for us to scan and keep with us all the books. if
at all we have scanned books with us, we have to do proof reading. it
is very difficult to do proof reading rather than doing scanning. I am
taking 45 minutes to edit one page and that too with great difficulty
by staining my eyes.
so, friends, please give me suggestions for the following
1. is there any way to get error free text after scanning and
converting it into text.
2. is there any efficient way of proof reading?
3. is there any other way to get books other than scanning?
I dont know Brail. so, please give suggestions other than getting
books in brail format.
thank you in advance
there is nothing impossible except the word impossible.
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From darkness unto light
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:40:09 +0530
From: "Vamshi. G" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
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Hi Vivek,
Since you have quoted my example, let me answer it. In that case,
one of our own legal expert, Mr. Rajesh Asudani helped that person in
guiding him to the right channel. That person got the job by
following the advice.
On 2/27/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!you are absolutely right, there seems
groups within the larger group.
----- Original Message -----
From: sanjay
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
AS per my observations, unless you are personally/virtually known to
many
people in a particular group, no matter how important the subject you
raise,
your mails may not get the amount of attention as per your
expectations.
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From darkness unto light
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:55:59 +0530
From: "P. Subramani" <[email protected]>
To: "Umesha Economics" <[email protected]>, "Access India"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
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Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!If your answers/arguments (strong) are
genuent, surely, thoses can be brought to the list irrespective to the
moderator's rulings. If you don't have time, why do you send such
replies.
----- Original Message -----
From: Umesha Economics
To: Access India ; P. Subramani
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
I have strong answers to all of your arguments. but I don't want to
answer because of 2 reasons. 1. I have no time for arguing for
unproductive things and convincing the insensitive minds. 2. the moderator
has given his ruling and it would be inappropriate on my part if I
overrule his statement. I request the moderator to excuse me if I have
violated the rules.
Umesha
----- Original Message -----
From: P. Subramani
To: Umesha Economics ; [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
these are just vague excuses. By mistake, someone posts an off-topic
matter, most if not all are up in arms against the poster. I don't agree
with the notion that subjectline doesn't indicate actual matter. If
off-topic mails can catch the attention of why not a mail routed through
the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as the matter pertains to recruitment
and its rules thereon. Also my mail is very clear and his age was
mentioned as more details would be of help. Forget all those who don't
have any solutions in this regard, what about those know such matters?
Coming to the citing of moderator's comments that all mails need not be
replied to, it depends on the gravity of the issue. Coming to discussion
of useless maters, you need not remind me of the delet button as all
computer users well-versed with that necessary button and hence I do use
to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not the person to judge
which is the otherway of deflecting from the main issue. I shall never
take back my remarks and shall standby them. Moreover, you have failed to
read my mail completely and understand as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: Umesha Economics
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
dear friends,
sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you
to
modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from
11:50
am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message
body
and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments,
there
may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up
to the
real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry
any
message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current
burning
problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the
subject
line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not
interests
them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not
clear.
whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said
you found
out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws
which
govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it
through RTI
or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age
of
person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the
disqualification? or
you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the
late
age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though
they
want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people
will
not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be
busy in
their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply
only
if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone
need not
reply to every message.
so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members.
they
are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with
knowledge
and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I
have seen
no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the
moderator is
nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but
other
than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any
one
among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other
blind.
this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case
is
serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments
on the
matters, you have to see all these aspects.
regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may
be
useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I
also
feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and
others
and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I
feel so.
but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to
those
having mobiles.
so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and
unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.
Umesha
----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Subramani" <[email protected]>
To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your
excellent
> suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the
channels
> suggested, surely, i may not have the right to criticize the
listers, but
> for this specific matter. I too have undergone the non-responses
from
> listers on many of my posts for which I didn't react respecting the
> members' rights and all such posts were individual requirements.
But this
> present case is affecting the masses. If not for such specific
cases, I do
> not outburst. Surely you will appreciate the gravity of the matter
> especially the employment seekers point of view.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
> Hello,
> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails. In such cases,
try to
> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
> listers. Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so
many
> negative comments. It doesn't matter whether we, the listers
deserve
> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
> criticising the listers for their insensitivity to the problem
you
> posted. But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy
of
> their recruitment rules? Or why don't you seek justice by
bringing
> the matter to the notice of the CCPD? Why don't you consult
advocacy
> cells set up by AICB, etc.? I too did not get response to my
requests
> a number of times but I never complained.
>
>
> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your
> contention of
> > listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a
few
> fine.
> > But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
> especially
> > the employment seekers and and none seem to bother. So I am
forced to
> > question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.
This
> matter is
> > more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
> terrible
> > that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise
differently. I
> am
> > absolutely right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bharat
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
> >
> >
> > While I completely agree with the need for people to respond
to your
> > thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must
realise that,
> > responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own
decision.
> > & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across
to the
> > list.
> >
> > On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: P. Subramani
> > > To: Kotian, H P ; [email protected]
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry
from
> any
> > group
> > > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and
every
> blind
> > > person. This clearly shows the incompetence of all the
members of
> this
> > > group on this very sensitive issue. You people are just
rangling
> with
> > > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile
> discussions on
> > > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your
(members')
> part to
> > > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters
are
> posted by
> > > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile
reactions.
> I
> > just
> > > wonder whether this group is just a talking shop for some
> non-sensical
> > > matters? Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this
group,
> this
> > issue
> > > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion. I conclude
by
> saying
> > this
> > > group like many other groups is exposing its insensitivity
to the
> > issues
> > > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart
from
> > discussing
> > > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues
concerning the
> > blind.
> > > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up
> necessary
> > > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P.
> Subramani
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Kotian, H P
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
> > > Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello
> > > Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
> > > Harish Kotian
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: P. Subramani <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > To: accessindia <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
> > > Subject: Recruitment rules!
> > >
> > > A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while
undergoing
> > medical
> > > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts
in
> > Southwestern
> > > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this
regard.
> From
> > > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of
disqualification.
> The
> > person
> > > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited
from
> all.
> > This
> > > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
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