I found Jaws working with no issues on a real remote computer with ILM key installed on local machine, but as soon as my colleague tried launching it on virtual network machine it crashed. Having said that, I'm eager to know if something can be done to make the blind lead the mainstream applications rather than follow the mainstream applications by devicing accessibility solutions. We have a disability forum in the firm where I'm working and we are thinking of something about it.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheik mohammedali Sent: 13 May 2012 18:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Future Computing for Blind in stand-allone computer it works indeed as you said. in work group it won't. apart from that there are lot of remote support utilities such as team viewer, laplink gold and network administrative pro. same thing happens. when it comes to the network screen reader of remote computer also not accessible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SYED IMRAN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Future Computing for Blind > but what happens after the installation. Do screen readers function as > normally as in your real desktop computer? > When you said you have experience working in a virtual computer, is it > a virtual machine installed on the same computer you are working or on > a network desktop solution via sitrics interface. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheik > mohammedali > Sent: 13 May 2012 18:39 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] Future Computing for Blind > > yes very much. . when you start the installation process under > virtual machine, screen readers keep quiet. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SYED IMRAN" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:32 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Future Computing for Blind > > >> Do you have experience working in virtual machines with any screen >> reader? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheik >> mohammedali >> Sent: 13 May 2012 18:27 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AI] Future Computing for Blind >> >> need to think of it really but the factual thing is, virtual >> environment is different than the actual. you do not have to go too >> far. take an example of virtual machine which facilitates you to run >> multiple operating system with in the current one. just i'm >> wondering how do those object look under virtual environment. ☺ ☺ ☺ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "SYED IMRAN" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Future Computing for Blind >> >> >>>I appreciate the fact that we have screen readers for non-windows >>>operating systems too, but I'm still thinking on alternatives to >>>screenreaders because what I have noticed is to an end-user, there is >>>a gap in terms of accessibility. Let me give an example. While >>>working in one of the firms in a client-server setting, what I have >>>noticed is the client machine has windows as it's operating system, >>>but it is acting as thin client to a unix or, solaris, or some other >>>non-windows server. >>>Now I'm definitely interested if there's any screen reader which will >>>work in multiple virtual operating system environment in one session. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheik >>> mohammedali >>> Sent: 13 May 2012 15:01 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Future Computing for Blind >>> >>> every software including screen readers is developed under >>> particular platform/operating system. if you say jaws, it is >>> exclusively for windows. >>> for non-windows operating systems there are other respective screen >>> readers. >>> not only jaws. there are numerous utilities. let's say MS office, >>> for windows it is different and in order to achieve same tasks there >>> are other office applications for different operating system. for >>> instance, open office is there very much for both windows and linux. >>> depends upon the software vender they are functioned under different >>> platforms. . Most of the java applications are developed for >>> multiple platforms. you can take example of some dictionaries which >>> are developed for apple mackintosh and microsoft windows. now let >>> me come to the point. if hardware manufacturer wish to develop a >>> screen reader, that software should be developed for bios/efi. >>> note: bios is the basic input and output system >>> (32 bit ) and efi is the extensible firmware interface(64 bit ). in >>> a simpler language wwe can say that both bios and efi are the >>> primary operating system for computer hardware. these operating >>> systemns such as windows, linux and mackintosh are the collection of >>> softwares for providing various services to the users. >>> . that's why there are alot of third party applications in the >>> market since an operating system cannot provide everything. ☺ ☺ >>> ☺!----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "SYED IMRAN" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 2:37 PM >>> Subject: [AI] Future Computing for Blind >>> >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I raise this query with a feeling that whatever screen readers we >>>> develop we are always at least one step behind the main stream >>>> applications, more so, when our screen readers interact with >>>> proprietary non-windows platform based apps. So I'd like our >>>> hardware experts out here to throw a light on this "mystery" of >>>> computing cycle. I would like to know what is preventing the >>>> display components in the computer to send the necessary output >>>> directly to the speakers as they would do on the monitor screen? >>>> The point is, somehow I do not understand the complete picture of >>>> computing cycle. >>>> I'd like it if I can get an explanation on it in a "layman's language". >>>> >>>> Be that as it may, as soon as you turn on your mobile / pc the >>>> output appears on the screen while the device is booting but you >>>> will have to wait if you'd want your screen reader to announce the >>>> output. So somewhere there is a disconnection between you and the >>>> computer. >>>> >>>> I really appreciate the screen reader technology, but I'm also >>>> interested in the alternatives to screen readers, and would like to >>>> lend my assistance in the ways I can. Some of my wildest thoughts >>>> that are running in my mind are how could we get the motherboard / >>>> processor vendors to make their future generation components >>>> Braille display / speech compliant. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Syed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>> changes, please visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia. >>>> o >>>> r >>>> g.in >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>> changes, please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o >>> r >>> g >>> .in >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>> changes, please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o >>> r >>> g >>> .in >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> [email protected] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.or >> g >> .in >> >> >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> [email protected] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.or >> g >> .in >> >> > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org > .in > > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org > .in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. 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