Hello Mr. Umesha, Thank you for your valuable suggestions. As concern to IPC that Indian penal code is applicable all over the India, why can't the guidelines applicable all over India. Thank you for rectifying me. As on that day my baby was distrubing me that is the reason lot of mistakes and spelling errors occured. regards, SK. SAZID.
--- On Wed, 13/6/12, Umesha Economics <[email protected]> wrote: From: Umesha Economics <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 13 June, 2012, 8:10 AM hello sheik, since this is your second exam, you were not aware of the possible situations. right, but be careful in future as many such uncertain times may come. there are several laws concerned with disabled which are vague in nature. be skeptic in all aspects of such provisions and confirm every thing well in advance. by preparing well, I meant to look after these issues also. I hope you prepared well for your exam and you will. but we have to give equal attention and some times even more attention to these issues while before examinations. as I saw, IPC 420 speaks about Cheating and dishonestly inducing delivery of property and is in no way connected to the case. how did you got a connection with the section? can you explain in detail? the guide lines though prepared by the ministry of SJ and empowerment, will have binding effect only if they issue them with the authority in the form of a government order, gazette notification, or enactment. but these are just draft guidelines which do not have any legal strength. I never said, and never will say you are begging for extra time. you need not say so. it is your moral right. only thing is to make it legal right through some enforcing rules. even with known scribes we need extra time due to some extra time wastage in communication. with unknown scribe it is even more. it is good your following it up with the authority. but, make sure that they are not protecting their subordinates. if at any time you feel that they are not acting as expected, don't hesitate to go to the commissionerate for the persons with disabilities or any court of law. one more suggestion, it is not related to the present topic, your message contains many spelling mistakes which makes it difficult to understand. I am not intending to discourage you, and please take this in a right spirit. I am saying this just because the communication is important. as I observed the patterns of errors in your mail, I think it is due to unknowingly touching some parts of the touchpad or clicking with mouse with your hand or accidentally pressing navigational keys. to avoid this, please read the message once after writing it before sending. Umesha ----- Original Message ----- From: "shaik sazid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 12 June, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam Hello dear UMr. mesha, After becoming VI this is my second exam, so that i do not know what are the do's and dont's. As you told me to prepare well I had prepared well. The first competitive exam which I appeared was RRb on may 6th in that they provided extra time. As you shoot a mail that 60% was withdrawn from RRC but in their latest notification RRC "special recrutment drive for disabled they clearly mentioned that the scribe should be not more than 60% which was announced on 9th june, 2012". When the guidelines are prepared by the social justice department why are they keeping that guidelines wighwith them. According to IPC 420 section it is applicable in all over india. Why cant the guidelines applicable all over india. My intention is not to beg extra time. As I am not aware of the scribe so that I did not meether. I am sorry if hurt. I had given met Assistant Director for disabled to look into this matter. Yes, practise makes men perfect. regards, sk.sazid. --- On Mon, 11/6/12, Umesha Economics <[email protected]> wrote: From: Umesha Economics <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 11 June, 2012, 10:39 PM dear shaik, as another member replied earlier, you have some wrong perceptions and wrong actions. as they said, there is no government order or any universal law binding all examining authorities in the country. all that is there is a model guidelines prepared by the ministry of social justice and empowerment if I am not wrong. these model guidelines are only suggestive and not imperative for the examining authorities. each examining authority makes its own rules in the matter which are applicable to only specified exam or exams conducted by that authority. there are number of communication and other gaps between and even within departments. since no binding law, the question of these gaps, the arrivals of the orders to the departments does not arise at all. well you could have taken some precautionary steps to avoid this. instead of asking for extra time in the exam hall, you could have studied thoroughly the examination rules issued by your recruitment authority. if the rules were unclear, silent, or not available to you or if they would be detrimental for you, you could have written to the top officer of that recruiting agency for an urgent action. regarding the scribe also, you could have done the same thing. you could have enquired about the qualification, language and writing ability, knowledge of how to pronounce technical terms and notations of your subject. also, you could have negotiated the possibility of taking a speed test of the scribe. all that is gone. please, all the members, check such things well in advance before attending any exam in future. now, as per my knowledge, the only option left is to make a complaint to the state commissioner of persons with disabilities and seek for a remedy. but, that is also not sure. and for your information, there is no rule stating extra time cannot be given in competitive exams. whether it is academic, or it is competitive exam, the problems of the VI are the same. and I have seen some exams like UGC NET and Karnataka Gazetted Probationers' exam, (KAS) where extra time is given in competitive exams. wish you all the best for your future. Umesha ----- Original Message ----- From: "shaik sazid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 01 June, 2012 11:32 PM Subject: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam Hello list members, On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher Eligibility Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. after half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He contacted the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra time is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I was schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District incharge for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for central government exams and academic exams? Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as phsycology terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. What should I do regarding this issue. How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders reaches the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any communication gap between disability department and various department? Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the district officers. To whom should I complaint regarding this. regards, SK. SAZID Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. 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