Ketan, Knowing you, I am sure you can learn quickly but you will be more happy with iPhone than android... Vasu
Sent from my iPad On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Kiran > > I was eagerly awaiting your intervention. I am now confused about > whether I will ever learn touch phones. Could you throw light on > > Ketantricks for this? > > On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja <[email protected]> wrote: >> Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi >> TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the >> iPhone >> or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like >> bbc.co.uk/Hindi, >> if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the >> text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings > General > Accessibility > >> VoiceOver > Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my opinion. >> >> I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users >> requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind >> VoiceOver. >> I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and Android >> JellyBean here >> http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly >> bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and >> http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility- >> continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/. >> >> And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet. if >> as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you may >> be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy >> Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any >> additional >> skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I >> believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on >> devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk. >> >> One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of >> cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the other >> hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large 4.8 >> inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen >> magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if it >> will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however. >> >> Just my two cents worth... >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula >> Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29 >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3 >> >> Hi, >> I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. Requested >> him to post on the list, if he can... >> Vasu >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Friends, >>> >>> I am surprised too. I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must >>> intervene and let us know. I did find chinese, Korean and whatever >>> but not Hindi. Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe >>> it may be downloadable. So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do >>> clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later. >>> >>> Ketan >>> >>> On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Dear Ketan - >>>> I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here >>>> in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver... >>>> -Vasu >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone? I know that there is >>>>> a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone. Please do throw >>>>> some light. >>>>> >>>>> With best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Ketan >>>>> >>>>> On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Dear Ketan and others, >>>>>> This may add to your disappointment. >>>>>> Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi >>>>>> reading or writing is not possible for the blind. >>>>>> The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not >>>>>> supported and vice versa. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am adding to the list so that you take the informed >>>>>> decision.<smile> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure >>>>>> Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05 >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3 >>>>>> >>>>>> Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my >> phone. >>>>>> Internet, I haven't used it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/8/12, ashook kumaaaaar <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> r battary and sound quality good? can i use internet easily in >>>>>>> it? does talk back preloaded on it? ashok kumar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Dear Ketan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may >>>>>>>> upgrade the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the >>>>>>>> specifications are good enough. Mine are good enough I hear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a >>>>>>>> Tablet which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone, >>>>>>>> I am yet to explore things, as screenreading software is not >>>>>>>> inbuilt, I need to download first. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks and warm regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rahul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Dear Rahul, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively >>>>>>>>> expensive) or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone. Does your Carbon >>>>>>>>> have talkback or spiel? Are you able to use apps? FB, Twitter >>>>>>>>> etc? Do share so that I can make my decision. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ketan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/8/12, ashook kumaaaaar <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> hello friends is there any person who is using carbonn a18? >>>>>>>>>> If yes then pls share your comments. Because i m looking for >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>> thanks. >>>>>>>>>> ashok kumar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Accessindians, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed >>>>>>>>>>> I get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone. Since >>>>>>>>>>> Android and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very >> insecure. >>>>>>>>>>> Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone? I >>>>>>>>>>> think the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very >> steep. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With best wishes, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ketan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>> I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will >>>>>>>>>>>> know that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart >>>>>>>>>>>> phone and the internet is full of comparisons. >>>>>>>>>>>> I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in >>>>>>>>>>>> India iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> 5 >>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>> arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps >>>>>>>>>>>> application is not likely to work in India until further few >>>>>>>>>>>> months on the iPhone. >>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on >>>>>>>>>>>> android as a part of my professional work. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this >>>>>>>>>>>> phone has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is >>>>>>>>>>>> possible to do everything on the phone although several >>>>>>>>>>>> things take much more time as compared to a phone with full >>>>>>>>>>>> keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I >>>>>>>>>>>> am eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it >>>>>>>>>>>> will be possible to do more with voice. Even now I am able to >>>>>>>>>>>> search contacts and send sms with the voice recognition app. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The >>>>>>>>>>>> fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font >>>>>>>>>>>> size to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital >>>>>>>>>>>> magnifying apps are also wonderful. >>>>>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>>>>> convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious >>>>>>>>>>>> competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20 >>>>>>>>>>>> K and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person >> yet. >>>>>>>>>>>> It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Time permitting I will write more on this. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Prashant >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>>>>>>> changes, please visit the list home page at >>>>>>>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_access >>>>>>>>>>>> indi >>>>>>>>>>>> a.org.in >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Ketan Kothari >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: [r] 24223281, >>>>>>>>>>> Cell: 9987550614 >>>>>>>>>>> MSN ID: [email protected] Skype ID: Ketan3333 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 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