Dear Kiran,
Thank you once again as always.
On another note, now there is a way of using google maps even on IOS 6 and
of course there are a lot apps in India.
Further, for typing there is an app to use Iphone like a Braille keyboard in
grade I. This one costs $5 or so.
With best wishes,
Ketan
-----Original Message-----
From: Kiran Kaja
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
There are two ways for text entry. when you need to enter text, a qwerty
keyboard pops up on the bottom part of the screen. You can touch the
character you want to enter and then double tap. But once you get used to
the layout of the keyboard, you will notice that this is really slow. But
there is also a touch typing mode. In this mode, you just touch the
character you want to insert and lift your finger up from the screen. The
character is then inserted. If you don't find the character you want to
insert when you first touch the screen, not to worry. You can move along the
screen until you find the character and then lift your finger up. It won't
insert anything unless you lift your finger. For new users, I first suggest
the default typing mode which is touch the character and double tap anywhere
on the screen to insert. Once you become familiar with the layout of the
keyboard, you can switch to touch typing mode.
Remember that if you have iPhone 4S, you can use Siri's dictation feature. I
should say though that this isn't very accurate with Indian accent. The
other alternative is to also buy an external mini Bluetooth keyboard. These
are really small keyboards and can easily fit in a trouser pocket. There are
loads of models on eBay. And surprisingly they are not too expensive. I have
a mini keyboard but I hardly use it.
There are a lot of free apps that have excellent functionality. BBCNews for
example is free. All the social network apps, Twitter, FaceBook and Google
Plus are free. Even the paid apps cost on an average a dollar or two. But
you don't really have to spend money on apps. If you listen to music, you
have to use iTunes on your computer to get music on to the iPhone. I don't
particularly like using iTunes on the computer but it is easy enough to
import your music into it and sync it with iPhone. If you have WiFi
connection at home and have an unlimited data plan, you can listen to music
and radio without actually having to bother with iTunes. There are loads of
free apps for listening to radio stations around the world.
Here is the thing though, if you are pretty sure that you are only going to
use your phone for making calls and sending text messages, you probably
don't need an iPhone or a high-end Android smartphone. A Nokia C5 will just
do fine. And also, if you are going to have problems connecting to the
internet, you won't be able to make use of the iPhone's capabilities. all
smartphones including the iPhone rely heavily on being able to connect to
the internet either through WiFi or 3G. for example, there is now a Podcast
app on the iPhone. it automatically downloads the podcasts you are
subscribed to. You can listen to them offline but the iPhone needs a data
connection to download them in the first place. There is a maps app on the
iPhone which is becoming more and more accessible. Note that turn by turn
navigation is not yet available in India. This maps app also requires a data
connection. So I would say the running cost is your data connection cost and
this is true no matter which smartphone you are using.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Kiran
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Ekinath Khedekar
Sent: 10 October 2012 12:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
Hi Kiran,
I am just wating for i5 to be launched here, so i4 prices fall further.
But can you throw some light on texting problems on iPhone. Do we have to
tab thrice on a letter?
How about it's general limitations like incompatibility with other devices
like our non-apple or blue tooth?
Does the download of various applications make it very expensive in terms of
it's operating cost?
Thanks in advance
On 10/9/12, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Kiran
I was eagerly awaiting your intervention. I am now confused about
whether I will ever learn touch phones. Could you throw light on
Ketantricks for this?
On 10/9/12, Kiran Kaja <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a
Hindi TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface
of the iPhone or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi
like bbc.co.uk/Hindi, if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to
Hindi TTS for reading the text. Hindi is one of the options in
Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Language Rotor. And
the TTS quality is very good in my opinion.
I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind
users requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way
behind VoiceOver.
I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and
Android JellyBean here
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-androi
d-jelly bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessi
bility- continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.
And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet.
if
as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset,
you may be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such
as the Galaxy Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do
not have any additional skins/customised interfaces which usually do
not work with Talkback. I believe there are also ways to install
unofficial Android firmware on devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at
your own risk.
One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot
of cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On
the other hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may
appreciate the large
4.8
inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text
enlargement/screen magnification features will be improved in Android
soon. I don't know if it will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS
however.
Just my two cents worth...
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
Hi,
I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification..
Requested
him to post on the list, if he can...
Vasu
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Friends,
I am surprised too. I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
intervene and let us know. I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
but not Hindi. Of course, there is another possibility in that
maybe it may be downloadable. So Kiran if you are seeing this,
please do clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.
Ketan
On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Ketan -
I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support
here in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
-Vasu
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear All,
Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone? I know that there
is a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone. Please do
throw some light.
With best wishes,
Ketan
On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Ketan and others,
This may add to your disappointment.
Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
supported and vice versa.
I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
decision.<smile>
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3
Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
phone.
Internet, I haven't used it.
On 10/8/12, ashook kumaaaaar <[email protected]> wrote:
r battary and sound quality good? can i use internet easily in
it? does talk back preloaded on it? ashok kumar.
On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Ketan,
My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may
upgrade the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the
specifications are good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.
All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a
Tablet which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my
phone, I am yet to explore things, as screenreading software is
not inbuilt, I need to download first.
Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.
Thanks and warm regards,
Rahul
On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Rahul,
Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively
expensive) or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone. Does your Carbon
have talkback or spiel? Are you able to use apps? FB,
Twitter etc? Do share so that I can make my decision.
With regards,
Ketan
On 10/8/12, ashook kumaaaaar <[email protected]> wrote:
hello friends is there any person who is using carbonn a18?
If yes then pls share your comments. Because i m looking
for this
thanks.
ashok kumar.
On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Accessindians,
Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more
depressed I get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.
Since Android and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually
feeling very
insecure.
Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?
Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone? I
think the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is
very
steep.
Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.
With best wishes,
Ketan
On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will
know that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart
phone and the internet is full of comparisons.
I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in
India iPhone
5
will
arrive only in November or December and secondly the new
Maps application is not likely to work in India until
further few months on the iPhone.
In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on
android as a part of my professional work.
With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this
phone has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is
possible to do everything on the phone although several
things take much more time as compared to a phone with full
keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and
I am eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which
it will be possible to do more with voice. Even now I am
able to search contacts and send sms with the voice recognition
app.
This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font
size to large or huge makes the screen readable. The
digital magnifying apps are also wonderful.
They
convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for
20 K and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind
person
yet.
It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.
Time permitting I will write more on this.
Prashant
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