If you believe in spirituality, Forgive them for what all they have done. It is difficult but this is the only way to get out of Neutons 3rd law of motion"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction". And this keeps on multiplying only people and ssituation would change but the anger, prejudices, rage would still persist within you and within the normal society towards each other.
On 8/27/13, Sagar Sodah <[email protected]> wrote: > very well persued! Ofcourse your family members are going to be more or > less protective and not want to end up in a mess. Kudos to your > perseverence, keep the fight on! > > Harish makes two very good points, we should in such situations pusue the > fight to its logical conclusion and when or if you return with cops or > other strangers, going to a friends place or relative's place is much > better > > Sagar > +91 99 30 271732 > intouchid: 2010-SAGAR007 <http://intch.me/2010-SAGAR007> > > "The evil of the world is made possible only by the sanction you give it." > - John Galt in "Atlas Shrugged" > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Vamshi. G <[email protected]> wrote: > >> One more reason why you should have gone ahead with the complaint is >> that it would have recorded a case of discrimination against disabled. >> Usually when officials/politicians refer to an issue, they consider >> the number of official complaints pertaining to that aspect. The more >> the officially recorded complaints, the stronger will be the case for >> us when we press for a change. Anyways, my hearty congratulations and >> appreciation to you. Keep up this spirit! >> >> >> >> On 8/27/13, Lalan Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Yes, friend this is a bitter truth. >> > when things don't seem to be going your way, always know that God has a >> > plan >> > >> > for you. If you place your trust in Him, He will give you great gifts. >> > We >> > don't always know what God's plans are for us. We just know that His >> > ways >> > are not our ways, but His ways are always best! >> > >> > Regards, >> > Lalan Kumar >> > [email protected] >> > [email protected] >> > Twitter: lklalan >> > Mo. No. 917503549438, 9015604533, 09955044572 >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Vedprakash" <[email protected]> >> > To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> > mobilephonesand Tabs. " <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 3:19 PM >> > Subject: Re: [AI] my dilemma and social atitude >> > >> > >> > Thanks for sharing your painful experience. >> > Please do not connect it with the disability. >> > Those, who are physically not very strong, have to compromise at >> > various >> > levels. >> > Many young ladies have to undergo molestation and sexual exploitation. >> But >> > they do not complain on account of various reasons. their family >> > members >> > too, coax them to keep their mouth shut. >> > several common people bear with the injustice but do not go to the >> police, >> > as they know that police help those who can purchase the help. >> > most of the times, when a passenger indicates to the driver of the bus >> > about >> > one or the other error committed by him, the passenger has to bear with >> the >> > rude behaviour of the driver. no co-travellers speak against the >> > driver. >> > the >> > only reason being that if the driver refuses to drive the bus further, >> > everybody shall get late. everybody is so busy that no one bothers to >> takek >> > note of any injustice around. >> > Therefore, take a stand only and only you have the capacity to stand >> alone. >> > this is the bitter truth. but it is true for everybody. not just for >> > the >> > disabled. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "sonu yadav" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:20 PM >> > Subject: [AI] my dilemma and social atitude >> > >> > >> > Hi friends, I am a regularreader of this list. Today I want to share >> > an incident with you all which is making me said and angery both and >> > moving my inner conscience. although it may be out of the scope of >> > this list but I feel our visual disability is in the centre of this >> > incident in which I happened to get involved today. This incident is >> > about our day today accessibility, experiences which we ordinarily >> > face outside and even more in the society. It has enriched my >> > experience as being disabled. I am expecting your comments and remarks >> > over it and about what we all should do in such circumstances. >> > Now I straight do come to the incident. I was happened to travel to my >> > hometown along with another visually challenged friend Baljeet from >> > Gurgaon where I came for some urgent work. A private buss which I knew >> > was heading to our location. Conductor misguided us and physically >> > forcing us for not to board this buss. Despite we got in to the buss >> > by equal force as many of you would have done at any point in your >> > life more in case of private busses. My friend alighted on his >> > destination before me. I communicated to the conductor that I may >> > inform the PCR if he behaved in such an offending manner especially >> > when I was ready to pay the fair. In a fit of anger he said to me “ek >> > kan par marunga”. I will blow on your ear. i got literally afraid. If >> > it punctured my airdrum though law will take its course but I will >> > never get my ear back. Therefore, at that time I thought wishful to >> > remain silent. Even many of the gentlemen and gentle ladies commuters >> > were saying that: “are buss men baitha to liya na. tumhe isiliye koi >> > baithata hi nahi hai”. I tried to make them convince and understand in >> > a soft voice in my best capacity but they were adamant. Some of others >> > were saying “are Kuch nahi hua seat to mil gain a ab chup-chap baith >> > jao”. At last I phoned to PCR. Despite my repeated exhortation >> > conductor refuse to talk to the PCR. Even he refused to divulge body >> > number of the buss as PCR was asking the buss number. Even the worst >> > part is that no passenger was ready to tell me the same. Anyhow I >> > could manage to inform the location of the buss. The other worst part >> > was that PCR informed me that police is waiting for the buss at a >> > distance of around seven KM from the location of the buss. I wonder if >> > it is the case in Gurgaon than what might be the condition in smaller >> > and far-flung cities and villages. For this reason I didn’t get down >> > on my destination as which was before that. Even conductor taunted me >> > “are vaikil sahib aap ka stoppage AAA Gaya” one co-passenger lady said >> > to conductor: “are aaj to ye tumhe hathkadi hi pahana kar maanega”. >> > “Isiliye to tumhe koi baithata nahi hai. ek tobuss men baitha bhi >> > liyaoopar se tum uski complaint kar rahe ho”. “kuch bhi to aisa nahi >> > hua.” After police barricaded the buss, conductor and driver all >> > began apologizing and at the same time feigned their innocence in the >> > matter as if they did not know anything about it, They pretended that >> > any such thing didn’t occurred and they did not in indulge anything of >> > sort. Some of the Passengers also took their sides. They were many but >> > I argued my case with them for almost one hour. Anyhow after heated >> > arguments I was able to compel police to chalan the buss as initially >> > they were not ready to do. Cutting it short conductor and driver >> > profusely apologized to me and emotionally blackmailed me by all means >> > and methods that they knew. Now Police was ready to issue Chalan now >> > it was all up to my will. He was swearing in the name of Ramadan at >> > another occasion he said that I am also Yadav of your community. Here >> > my purpose is not to comment on any religion but to expose his lies. >> > At this point police played their usual spoiler. Although I refused to >> > share contact details any of my family members. Perhaps in their mind >> > they knew that only my family members could convince me take back my >> > complaint. they took me along with them to drop me at my home as they >> > were not ready to let me go on my home though I insisted several >> > times that I am adult and you do talk to me as it has occurred with >> > me. When they didn’t yielded I have to go with them to my home. Now >> > all driver, conductor and police began to apologize and convince all >> > my family members and brothers and uncles to persuade me to take back >> > the complaint. There also police was stating that they were ready to >> > Chelan the buss and they have to if I still insisted. Although >> > initially I refused to take back the complaint at no cost but under >> > moral pressure and prolonged persuasion especially by my family >> > members I felt compelled to take back the complaint otherwise Chalan >> > was certain. Here the incident ends. >> > Here my feeling is that at large society either it is police, bus >> > operators, or passengers and sometimes our family members don’t seem >> > to understand our struggle. It doesn’t cost anything to my family >> > members to let that bus driver and conductor go unpunished. Instead >> > they got the credit and bountiful appreciation for mediation. At that >> > time they forgot and failed to understand and feel the struggle and >> > agony I underwent during that all and in putting my case. Perhaps they >> > don’t know the struggle we face outside as being disabled. I am >> > feeling sad but somewhat satisfied that at least I reached so close >> > perhaps driver and conductor would take some lesson from this. But I >> > am said that even our families don’t understand us. Though I guess >> > that some of you may support and subscribe to the views and action of >> > my family. But at least from my family even if they are part of my >> > extended joint family I expect them to support me instead of moved by >> > crocodile tears of buss driver and conductor. They need to >> > cooperative and empathize to our pain, struggle and rights. It is >> > because of such some insensitive people in the society such as these >> > protagonists passengers, driver, conductor and policemen people with >> > disability and even others also face types of problems. face it is >> > bitter but true. What do you think friends? >> > Sonu Yadav >> > PHD research scholar JNU CHS/SSS >> > >> > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> > mobile phones / Tabs on: >> > >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > >> > >> > Search for old postings at: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to >> > [email protected] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please >> > visit the list home page at >> > >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > >> > >> > Disclaimer: >> > 1. 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