All
I was following this thread closely and did not intervene. I guess George has summarised it adequately and it is time we apply a brake on this thread.

We had a multitude of opinion and each of the shade stands out. It is a wealth of resource for someone to mull over this subject in future.

Thanks all for enthusiastically participating in this topic.

Harish Kotian

----- Original Message ----- From: "George Abraham" <[email protected]> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocityare normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


A lot of content has been shared on this topic over the past few days. Great experiences have been shared. Issues have been hotly debated and still I do not think any conclusion has been arrived at or for that matter none will be arrived at.

The law of gravity states that anything that is thrown up will fall to the ground. This is an absolute truth and fact. No debate.

As far as blind people marrying blind people or blind persons marrying sighted persons experiences are varied and I do not think there can be an absolutestand on it.

Perceptions, attitude, education family backgrounds, exposure, all of this would contribute. No marriage can be looked down upon. It is about two people coming together. Every relationship is possible.

Further the reasons for which people marry also can vary. This too can have an impact on how the marriage works out.

So I do not think anyone is right or wrong here since all of us are speaking from experiences either lived or seen. So if someone asks the question can a blind man marry a sighted woman or the other way around, my simple answer would be "yes". It depends entirely on the two people involved and their circumstances.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor
Sent: 03 July 2014 10:52
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Prashant,
Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
socializing
factor going!
It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
because of their disabiity.
Warmly
Preeti

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-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Prashant Verma
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views.



Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario.



The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.



I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.



What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
partner then it may help solve few practical problems but then a visually
impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.



When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.



I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners.
Finally
they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen
to be more open minded and accommodating.



It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
time will increase chances of finding partners.



I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman.



-----Original Message-----

From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of ishita kapoor

Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.

Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
valid.

I have 40 percent vision.

And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream
unless he has social or economical problems.

In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any
girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is
poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.

Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.

And I don't have any bitter feeling for this belief.

Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
aspects I can't marry with the guy who doesn't have both arms and both
legs.

The same way I shouldn't expect such charity from any able bodied man.

And yes I won't get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by

saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to
tariff kar saku.

I don't have much experience but still I would like to advice all
youngsters
that please don't do this.

Don't ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya
chahti hun.





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You are very right!

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-----Original Message-----

From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On

Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are

normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a

blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married

to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of

sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons

other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be

related to our blindness.

Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people

have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also

in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we

are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be

of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is

quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case

if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to

show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).

Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of

successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.

I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other

because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put

in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with

blindness.

When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the

ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability

of blind partner.





On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain <[email protected]> wrote:

Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be

some "self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship

will end. A person with financial poverty and emotional richness can

provide emotional support to the emotionally poor but financially

rich one and thus can be equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind

marrying a sighted? Disagree with it, but I won't - especially after

seeing so many examples on Access India.



-----Original Message-----

From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On

Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma

Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and

issuesconcerning the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are

normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



"Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status.

Such

friendships will never give you any happiness."

   - Chanakya



"There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no

friendship without self-interests. This is a bitter truth."

   - Chanakya



both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership.

marriage is

a

social partnership between to parties where they have joined each

other to satisfy their physical and emotional desires.



----- Original Message -----

From: "aditi shah" <[email protected]>

To: "accessindia" <[email protected]>

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM

Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are

normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners





Hi there everyone,

Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like

expressing my views as well.



We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.

There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be

areas we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of

our disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other
reasons.

According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic

skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning,

socializing, etc.

Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a

lifestyle one has.

So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a

sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's

skills can meet those basic requirements or not.

Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to

marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone

economically or intellectually weaker than us.

If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may

be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic

background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both

partners together possess the required skills.

Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to

do the required things, may be in ways different than the normal

world, they can indeed have a successful married life.



So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about

finding that someone such that with understanding, you can both

match up for each other's shortcomings.

Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the

other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life

filling the gaps.



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