i agree with you.
But I totally against of the sign gide or signature gide.
I don't know how much it helps to us.

On 8/5/14, anjali Anand <[email protected]> wrote:
> Suk Bahadur
> for the purposes of banking, and with regard to the inability to sign,
> due to different reasons,  illiterate and visually impaired are
> treated alike.
> it is not to offend literate and educated blind persons.
>
> like all things that we as blind persons have learnt and skilled
> ourselves,  signing would also need practice. tools can help.
>
> best wishes
>
>
>
>
> On 8/5/14, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dear Mr. prashant ,
>> Yes , it is a  stencil type frame with our chosen letters in the chosen
>> format. I spoke to Mr. R. C. Gupta today morning and this is what he told
>> me
>> . As you have rightly mentioned one has to keep the frame safely.
>> Rgds.
>> Dr. BSM. Kumar.
>> Handset : +91 9840139849.
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: Prashant Verma
>> Sent:  05/08/2014, 11:23  am
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>> issues       concerning
>>      the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Are we visually impaired who cannot sign are
>> illiterate?
>>
>>
>> If I understand correctly it is a stencil type of guide in which the
>> outline
>> of our chosen alphabets are provided in a particular design.
>> You just run the pen inside it.
>> It will give perfect results everytime. The guide needs to be kept very
>> safe
>> however.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf
>> Of R C Gupta
>> Sent: 05 August 2014 09:29
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Are we visually impaired who cannot sign are
>> illiterate?
>>
>>
>>     please call me on my mobile 9415209789 for explain to our signature
>> guide I have mention to I am using last 11 yrs successfully
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pranav Lal" <[email protected]>
>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled.'" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 5:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Are we visually impaired who cannot sign are
>> illiterate?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mr. R.C. Gupta,
>>>
>>> How does a signature guide help in ensuring consistent signatures? The
>>> last time I checked, a signature guide was a frame that you could
>>> place on a page. You would then move your pen in the frame which would
>>> ensure that your signature stayed in the bounds of the frame. The
>>> guide did nothing about ensuring the consistency of the shapes of
>>> letters.
>>>
>>> Are you advertising a different kind of signature guide?
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of R C Gupta
>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:59 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>> issuesconcerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Are we visually impaired who cannot sign are
>>> illiterate?
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now Bi person can also accurate sine like normal person with A help of
>>> signature guide. Bi can not open account any modern private banks like
>>> ICICI. HDFC. Axis. Demotte account for trading because the signature
>>> of Bi not accurate. Solving this problem Mr. Arun kumar warma an ovate
>>> A signature
>>>
>>> guide for Bi. With help of this signature guide Bi can successfully
>>> accurate
>>>
>>> sine any ware.
>>>
>>> First of all Mr. R C Gupta use this signature guide last 10th years he
>>> can successfully operate his accounts in ICICI, HDFC.axis banks and he
>>> also open
>>>
>>> the Demotte account and trading in share market without any problem of
>>> accuracy of signature.
>>>
>>> All information about this signature guide contact to Mr. warma Mo.No.
>>> 09389509043 and Mr. R C Gupta No. No. 9415209789
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dr.B.S.M.Kumar" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 7:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Are we visually impaired who cannot sign are
>>> illiterate?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear sir,
>>>> You can use signature guide for the purpose of signing. You can
>>>> contact saksham at New Delhi, for more details on this. I  am not
>>>> aware of the telephone number. You may get the telephone number on
>>>> www.saksham.org. On contacting them, they will guide you .
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dr. B.S.M.Kumar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/4/14, Suk Bahadur Subba <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>> Are we the visually impaired persons  really becomes illiterate if
>>>>> we cannot sign as others  do?  This is in relation to my opening of
>>>>> bank account on a nationalised bank and when I opted for ATM as
>>>>> well, they asked me to sign of which I am not confident as it is
>>>>> difficult for me to make similar signature all the time.  so if you
>>>>> suggest me some other measure or with regards
>>>>>
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