Yes, there are some devices which can display one or two lines at a time. These devices are very handy and also are very easy to use. There are six keys which can be used to key in the text input like we type in brailler. There is no need of papers if such devices can be made available for the school students. They can take notes very easily and without disturbing anybody. I just forgot the name of the device. But the device is very useful for all those who wish to make braille their first choice.
-----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 1:04 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille Yes, even I used to believe that one must learn Braille at least during primary school, but many children who are tech savvy are proving that it is not necessary. Adults talking about the need for blind children without knowing their perspective is similar to sighted people talking about the needs of persons with blindness without knowing what they think about it. Similarly, many sighted people who thought that they cannot do without physical books are now switching to kindles and the likes. Sooner or later, all paper books be it Braille or print, are going to be extinct, so we would have to focus on electronic Braille. So if we really want to preserve Braille, then we need to focus on making electronic books readable and affordable with Braille devices rather than printing braille books in paper, because paper books are bulky, expensive(Braille books cost a lot if subsidy is considered), and making 50 lakhs books available in Braille seems impossible even for the richest countries in the world. On another note, printing Braille books is also environmentally detrimental. My main problem with such announcements is that mainstream media does not realize that there is something known as assistive technology, so for anyone who wants to be seen doing good work for the blind is compelled to use Braille as a symbolic gesture. Imagine a debate in the government office about whether to work on electronic books or on Braille books. Best Dinesh Mobile: +91 9718328272 "Knowledge is a process of piling up facts; wisdom lies in their simplification". --Martin Fischer -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of vivek doddamani Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:23 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille The importance of braille for visually impaired persons is just like printed letters for sighted persons, for visually impaire children while starting school the braille is must without braille knowledge one cannot improve the language thoroughly to know the spelling of any word braille is must though computer is there if you read by computers or dezi readers but reading by braille willbe efficient & will be in memory for long time. On 1/20/15, sachu ramalingam <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear All, > > I completely agree that Mr. Abedi ought to tender an unequivocal > public apology to the visually impaired community. > > It is aso equally important for the pionner to apologise for > publishing a statement from a person who has nothing what so ever > with the Braille or visual impairment. Are there derth of people in > new delhi from whom opinion could have been taken. > > Regards > > Sachu Ramalingam > On 19 Jan 2015 18:28, "Radio Udaan" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> dear all, >> on behalf of radio udaan we also strongly condemn this statements of >> Javed Abidi. >> >> On 1/19/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I've forwarded the mail to Mr Abidi Dear Javed Abidi please see the >> > conversation/thread and it would be great if you justify your claim >> > or offer an apology to the blind community. >> > >> > >> > >> > On 1/19/15, AICB <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dear friends, >> >> On behalf of All India Confederation of the Blind, we condemn in >> >> the strongest of expressions, the statement quoted to have been >> >> made by Mr. Javed Abidi about the relevance of Braille in the >> >> context of Government's initiatives to modernize Braille presses in the country. >> >> The discussion in reference to this statement, so far, has largely >> >> focused on justifying the relative merits of Braille in relation >> >> to other technologies. To us however, apart from what has been >> >> said by others supporting Braille, the issues underlying this >> >> discourse are much deeper than that. >> >> While we can debate the relative merits of a particular format of >> >> accessibility in reference to other applicable formats used by the >> >> visually impaired, the right to enter into a discussion of this >> >> nature, in our view, rests solely with the visually impaired. A >> >> person such as Mr. Javed Abidi, who has never used/read even a >> >> single Braille book in his entire life, does not have the right to >> >> speak on this issue. Therefore, rather than justifying the >> >> relevance of Braille (which is a firmly established truth in the >> >> visual impairment sector), we consider it imperative to take >> >> strong objection to a person, having no knowledge of visual impairment sector, meddling into our affairs. >> >> It may be noted here that AICB has the capacity of printing more >> >> than >> >> 40000 Braille pages per day, but even this proves insufficient and >> >> our Braille press has to often work in multiple shifts. >> >> Similar situation may exist in the case of other Braille presses >> >> as well. It is a well-known fact that the demand for Braille books >> >> is much more than the present facilities and infrastructure can >> >> claim to meet. If such facts, along with all that has so far been >> >> said supporting Braille, are not enough to make Mr. Abidi realize >> >> the ground situation with respect to Braille, then we can only >> >> feel sad at his ignorance despite claiming to be in the sector for so many years. >> >> >> >> It is unfortunate that Mr. Abidi often speaks out of turn and on >> >> issues about which he appears to have only little or no knowledge. >> >> The present instance is one such example, though by no means the only one. >> >> Some people are so keen to issue public statements and read their >> >> names in print (as appears to be the present case) that they do >> >> not care for the accuracy of their statement, nor do they bother >> >> about the sensitivity of others. By issuing the most deplorable >> >> statement in reference, Mr. Javed Abidi has not only hurt the >> >> sentiments and interests of the blind, he has also once again >> >> proved that he has no right to speak on behalf of the blind and >> >> represent them in any matter and on any forum whatsoever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> AICB, like many other self-help organizations of the blind, has >> >> always believed in the philosophy of nothing about us without us. >> >> Therefore, any attempt to speak on our behalf by those who do not >> >> belong to us, such as Mr. Javed Abidi, must be strongly resisted >> >> and repelled in the present and at all times to come. Even the >> >> UNCRPD (which Mr. Abidi claims to champion by conducting >> >> workshops) advocates the voicesof persons of applicable >> >> disabilities in formulations and decision-making. His present >> >> statement clearly proves that Mr. Abidi has violated this fundamental principle of UNCRPD also. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> While Mr. Abidi owes the visual impairment sector a public apology >> >> in the very newspaper which published his statement, the newspaper >> >> must also ensure that comments on issues concerning the blind must >> >> be sought from those to whom the issues directly concern and not >> >> from the self-styled disability activists. AICB has already >> >> written to the 'Pioneer' newspaper about this matter. We are also >> >> writing a strong letter of protest to Mr. Abidi's organization >> >> demanding a public apology. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please join us in the interests of the blind. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Anil K. Aneja. >> >> >> >> Vice President, >> >> >> >> All India Confederation of the Blind >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/17/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in >> >>> the article >> >>> >> >>> Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed >> >>> script, and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading >> >>> rumour about Braille through media. This script is still >> >>> relevant and needs to be preserved and promoted. 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