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I don't think, he is presently on the list.
Therefore, you will have to write to him directly.

Let us close this thread for now.
Harish Kotian

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Aarthi Burthony
Sent: 20 January 2015 12:40
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Cc: mervynanthony; ldlmufa
Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in 
Braille

On 1/20/15, Poonam <[email protected]> wrote:
> I entirely agree with ms. sachu ramalingam.
>
> On 1/20/15, sachu ramalingam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I completely  agree  that Mr. Abedi ought to tender an unequivocal
>> public apology  to the visually impaired community.
>>
>> It is  aso equally  important  for the pionner to  apologise for
>> publishing  a statement from a person who has nothing what so ever
>> with the  Braille or visual impairment. Are  there derth of people in
>> new delhi from whom opinion  could have been taken.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sachu Ramalingam
>> On 19 Jan 2015 18:28, "Radio Udaan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> dear all,
>>> on behalf of radio udaan we also strongly condemn this statements of
>>> Javed Abidi.
>>>
>>> On 1/19/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > I've forwarded the mail to Mr Abidi Dear Javed Abidi please see
>>> > the conversation/thread and it would be great if you justify your
>>> > claim or offer an apology to the blind community.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 1/19/15, AICB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> Dear friends,
>>> >> On behalf of All India Confederation of the Blind, we condemn in
>>> >> the strongest of expressions, the statement quoted to have been
>>> >> made by Mr. Javed Abidi about the relevance of Braille in the
>>> >> context of Government's initiatives to modernize Braille presses in the 
>>> >> country.
>>> >> The discussion in reference to this statement, so far, has
>>> >> largely focused on justifying the relative merits of Braille in
>>> >> relation to other technologies. To us however, apart from what
>>> >> has been said by others supporting Braille, the issues underlying
>>> >> this discourse are much deeper than that.
>>> >> While we can debate the relative merits of a particular format of
>>> >> accessibility in reference to other applicable formats used by
>>> >> the visually impaired, the right to enter into a discussion of
>>> >> this nature, in our view, rests solely with the visually
>>> >> impaired. A person such as Mr. Javed Abidi, who has never
>>> >> used/read even a single Braille book in his entire life, does not
>>> >> have the right to speak on this issue. Therefore, rather than
>>> >> justifying the relevance of Braille (which is a firmly
>>> >> established truth in the visual impairment sector), we consider
>>> >> it imperative to take strong objection to a person, having no
>>> >> knowledge of visual impairment sector, meddling into our affairs.
>>> >> It may be noted here that AICB has the capacity of printing more
>>> >> than
>>> >> 40000 Braille pages per day, but even this proves insufficient
>>> >> and our Braille press has to often work in multiple shifts.
>>> >>  Similar situation may exist in the case of other Braille presses
>>> >> as well. It is a well-known fact that the demand for Braille
>>> >> books is much more than the present facilities and infrastructure
>>> >> can claim to meet. If such facts, along with all that has so far
>>> >> been said supporting Braille, are not enough to make Mr. Abidi
>>> >> realize the ground situation with respect to Braille, then we can
>>> >> only feel sad at his ignorance despite claiming to be in the
>>> >> sector for so many years.
>>> >>
>>> >> It is unfortunate that Mr. Abidi often speaks out of turn and on
>>> >> issues about which he appears to have only little or no knowledge.
>>> >> The
>>> >> present instance is one such example, though by no means the only
>>> >> one.
>>> >> Some people are so keen to issue public statements and read their
>>> >> names in print (as appears to be the present case) that they do
>>> >> not care for the accuracy of their statement, nor do they bother
>>> >> about the sensitivity of others. By issuing the most deplorable
>>> >> statement in reference, Mr. Javed Abidi has not only hurt the
>>> >> sentiments and interests of the blind, he has also once again
>>> >> proved that he has no right to speak on behalf of the blind and
>>> >> represent them in any matter and on any forum whatsoever.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> AICB, like many other self-help organizations of the blind, has
>>> >> always believed in the philosophy of nothing about us without us.
>>> >> Therefore, any attempt to speak on our behalf by those who do not
>>> >> belong to us, such as Mr. Javed Abidi, must be strongly resisted
>>> >> and repelled in the present and at all times to come. Even the
>>> >> UNCRPD (which Mr. Abidi claims to champion by conducting
>>> >> workshops) advocates the voicesof persons of applicable
>>> >> disabilities in formulations and decision-making. His present
>>> >> statement clearly proves that Mr. Abidi has violated this
>>> >> fundamental principle of UNCRPD also.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> While Mr. Abidi owes the visual impairment sector a public
>>> >> apology in the very newspaper which published his statement, the
>>> >> newspaper must also ensure that comments on issues concerning the
>>> >> blind must be sought from those to whom the issues directly
>>> >> concern and not from the self-styled disability activists. AICB
>>> >> has already written to the 'Pioneer' newspaper about this matter.
>>> >> We are also writing a strong letter of protest to Mr. Abidi's
>>> >> organization demanding a public apology.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Please join us in the interests of the blind.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Dr. Anil K. Aneja.
>>> >>
>>> >> Vice President,
>>> >>
>>> >> All India Confederation of the Blind
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 1/17/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming
>>> >>> in the article
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed
>>> >>> script, and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading
>>> >>> rumour about Braille through media.  This script is still
>>> >>> relevant and needs to be preserved and promoted. Withstanding
>>> >>> the tsunami in technological advancement worldover which serves
>>> >>> few lucky ones, Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind
>>> >>> people.  As printed books are never gonna off the hands so the
>>> >>> case with Braille books.
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-
>>> impaired-funds-books-in-braille.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Avinash Shahi
>>> >>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th
>>> >>>
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