hi,
Let us be clear.
1. NVDA is a screen reader is by VI person for VI person.
2. Jaws is a commercial product.
Hence, NVDA is like a food cooked in kitchen by the mum. It may be not
so tasty or salty in some cases. But one should not complain the cook
mum, instead try to assist her.
Jaws is a like a food of a restaurant. If so not tasty, one must
complain because he/she has to pay for it. If cracked jaws is used,
that is a type of theft. One should not compare the stolen food of a
restaurant and the cooked at home.
No One should understand that contribute means only involvement in the
development By pointing the weakness, asking new features, etc. any VI
person can contribute nvdA. Some Difference between nvda and jaws is
understandable. Each item has its own uniqueness. You feel a
difference in shirt and t-shirt or in a coat and a sweeter.
However, their functionality is the same.
Please do not compare in terms of this key stroke or that.
Visualize the performance, functionality and users' friendliness.
These are the key points of evaluation.





On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed <[email protected]> wrote:
> @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
> word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
> have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
> another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
> insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no
> option is available in nvda.
>
> On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Guffran,
>> Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
>> elaborate/ellucidate.
>> For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
>> recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
>> [email protected] with the subject of Subscribe. Access India
>> is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users
>> list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
>> to receive official announcements.
>> Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
>> Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing
>> users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
>> available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
>> demand.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I
>>> search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers
>>> for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick
>>>> with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting
>>>> with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
>>>> Thank you!
>>>> Lissy Verghese
>>>>
>>>> On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws
>>>>> we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result.
>>>>> but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the
>>>>> desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing
>>>>>> web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I
>>>>>> believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am
>>>>>> impressed
>>>>>> with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and
>>>>>> Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base.
>>>>>> A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for
>>>>>> JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve,
>>>>>> transitioned
>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>> The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
>>>>>> I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available
>>>>>> and whose crack is widely distributed.
>>>>>> I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> work with.
>>>>>> Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open
>>>>>> source accessibility related projects!
>>>>>> Ekinath Sir,
>>>>>> Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can
>>>>>> always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or
>>>>>> bug
>>>>>> report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by
>>>>>> someone in this thread itself, I believe.
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See http://www.saksham.org/help.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to
>>>>>>> specify
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> purpose for said donation.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>> Ashik
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM
>>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>>>>>> issuesconcerning
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> disabled.
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay
>>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> can,
>>>>>>> but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit
>>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ekinath Khedekar" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>>> concerningthe
>>>>>>> disabled." <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Ashik,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth.
>>>>>>>> It's all about getting comfortable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> it. There is also a tts issue.
>>>>>>>> I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel,
>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>> it is great online.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> seen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them
>>>>>>>> anything much. But it would boost their confidence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers NVDA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/22/15, Ashik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been
>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>> NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know,
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be
>>>>>>>>> convinced.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Ekinath Khedekar" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "accessindia" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [AI] NVDA better again
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Friends,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility.
>>>>>>>>>> However, I experienced it today.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on
>>>>>>>>>> www.yesbank.in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was
>>>>>>>>>> quarrelling with the Yes bank.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar
>>>>>>>>>> dates
>>>>>>>>>> earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a
>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>> job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> at least ideal settings were shared with the users.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>> EDWARD EVERETT HALE.
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Warm Regards
>>>>>> Bhavya Shah
>>>>>> Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
>>>>>> reader for Microsoft Windows
>>>>>> To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
>>>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/
>>>>>> Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
>>>>>> Reach me through the following means:
>>>>>> Mobile: +91 7506221750
>>>>>> E-mail id: [email protected]
>>>>>> Skype id : bhavya.09
>>>>>>
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