Dear Bhavya,
I am amazed to see that you read all these mails in details and reply to all
the comment makers addressing their names. I appreciate your balanced
attitude.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: NVDA better again
Hi,
Guffran Sir,
Firstly, glad to see that you are now onboard the NVDA Users list.
Now, coming to your actual points:
Which form field in particular on which webpage are you talking about?
In terms of web support, NVDA is more or less indisputantly the
winner.
Regarding mouseover links, raise that on the NVDA Users list, I'm not
fully sure of that.
Him Prasad Sir,
Excellent and appropriate analogy used to describe the situation
between the two.
Hozefa Sir,
I agree with Ashik Sir, we are simply encouraging and promoting the
use of free and open source assistive technology whose development is
progressive, active and full of potentials. JAWS must have had been
the first in the screen reader industry, but, NVDA is changing the
situation by offering amazing competition to JAWS, that too, at no
cost.
Vedprakash Sir,
The bottomline of yours, and others' messages is to try and improve
the product you like. There were some bugs and limitations of NVDA
which I reported myself, and were fixed eventually through code
contribution from the community more than the lead developers
themselves.
Sanjay Sir,
Never heard of this CAB, could someone provide detailed information to
quench my curiosity?
Thanks.
On 5/1/15, sanjay <sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
No. before the advent of jaws and windows, blind people were using
computers
by a speech synthesiser called CAB (computer assistance for the blind)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hozefa Tambawala" <starh...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] NVDA better again
I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less
same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that
JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged
to operate computer.
If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you
can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining
here.
On 5/1/15, Ashik <ashikhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned
with
what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these
with
asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and
concerned
about the needs of the visually impaired.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hozefa Tambawala" <starh...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again
According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.
On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
@Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that
no
option is available in nvda.
On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Guffran,
Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
elaborate/ellucidate.
For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access
India
is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA
Users
list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
to receive official announcements.
Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and
existing
users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
demand.
Thanks.
On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese <lvmalayatt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should
I
search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated
developers
for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.
On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese <lvmalayatt...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I
stick
with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while
chatting
with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
Thank you!
Lissy Verghese
On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote:
only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in
jaws
we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the
result.
but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by
the
desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.
On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and
advancing
web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as
I
believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am
impressed
with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh
and
Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user
base.
A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training
for
JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve,
transitioned
myself.
The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS
being
that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily
available
and whose crack is widely distributed.
I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather
uncomfortable
to
work with.
Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven
open
source accessibility related projects!
Ekinath Sir,
Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you
can
always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request
or
bug
report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by
someone in this thread itself, I believe.
Thanks.
On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal <pranav....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
See http://www.saksham.org/help.php
They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you
to
specify
the
purpose for said donation.
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On
Behalf
Of
Ashik
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning
the
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again
Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay
whatever
I
can,
but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the
credit
card.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ekinath Khedekar" <ekin...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issues
concerningthe
disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again
Dear Ashik,
People will take it when the transition is beneficial and
smooth.
It's all about getting comfortable.
I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped
me
with
it. There is also a tts issue.
I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel,
though
it is great online.
But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it
can
be
seen.
I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them
anything much. But it would boost their confidence.
Cheers NVDA
On 4/22/15, Ashik <ashikhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been
using
NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you
know,
it
is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to
be
convinced.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ekinath Khedekar" <ekin...@gmail.com>
To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM
Subject: [AI] NVDA better again
Hi Friends,
Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web
accessibility.
However, I experienced it today.
JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option
on
www.yesbank.in
It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department,
but
as
it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I
was
quarrelling with the Yes bank.
NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar
dates
earlier.
Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a
better
job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after
installation
or
at least ideal settings were shared with the users.
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