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Topics of the day:
1. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
2. CAN'T GET ZIPPED STUFF.
3. how can i get message from a newsgroup via mail
4. ADMIN: Monthly Reminder
5. JUNO (2)
6. Zip files from www4mail are wrong
7. TRUNCATED DIGESTS (3)
8. history of eMail? (2)
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:01:06 GMT
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:41:06 -0700
From: "Walde, Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CAN'T GET ZIPPED STUFF.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:10:27 +0300
From: Esmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CAN'T GET ZIPPED STUFF.
I tried The tip of combining the files from the dos prompt and it
works fine, but it is tedious especially with messages split into
50 parts and the dos command character limit. Does anyone know of a
utility to combine files automatically?
I use Outlook Express+Win 98. When i download a zipped file using
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to get zipped files from the same site,
the messages are split up into separate sections. The 1st message
contains a zip file attachment, but its size is a small fraction
of what the whole zip should be. The rest of the messages have
garbled text in the body, no atchmnt. (text which you find if you
open an executable in notepad) Help me find a way to 'combine' the
message and make it readableto winzip. the first atchmnt is 'not
a complete zip file'. that's what winzip says.
Well, I'm using Outlook 97 with Win NT, but I imagine this method should
also work with Outlook Express.
I find the simplest method is just to select all the parts of the
multipart file (holding down the <CTRL> key and clicking on the header of
each message) and 'Save As' text. ( (F)ile/Save (A)s - in Outlook ). This
should concatenate all the files into a single text file. Be sure to save
the file with the extension UUE for a uuencoded file (ie: Temp.uue ), which
I'll assume is the encoding you're using. Then, all you have to do is load
the .UUE file with WinZip, I use WinZip v6.3, and it should decode it. I
find it convenient, since I've never needed to sort the files, delete
message headers, or concatenate by DoS.
I've tried this method many times with files received via
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and haven't encountered any problems yet. It
also lets me decode multiple files, so in the case I receive two or three
multi-part files, I can extract them all from the same temp.uue file.
I hope this is helpful.
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Johnathan Walde, 7572
- Darn American spellchecker. Whaddya mean, Poutine's not a word?
Show is over, eh. Itte kimasu.
KA-BOOM!
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:22:49 +0000
From: "McDade, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how can i get message from a newsgroup via mail
I find the easiest way to get messages from newsgroups like alt.2600
is to use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] server;
Simply send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as such;
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subject: SEND news://news.demon.co.uk/alt.2600
This will reply with the last 30 postings to that news group,
Its then a matter of copy & pasting the relevent link into a new message.
Hope this helps.
Chris
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:00:09 -0800
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ADMIN: Monthly Reminder
===================== ACCMAIL Monthly Reminder =======================
Last Updated: 31Jan99
This message is intended to inform you what to do before posting to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the mailing list discussing "Accessing the
Internet via E-mail".
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P U R P O S E
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questions about the FAQ with the same name, written by Gerald E. Boyd
This is the place to find out about new versions, ask questions about
the current version, make suggestions for additions/deletions, etc.
Note: ACCMAIL is a MODERATED list, which means that all postings will be
sent to a human for review before being posted to the list.
Read the FAQs that are available.
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G U I D E T O O F F L I N E I N T E R N E T A C C E S S
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"Accessing The Internet By E-Mail" from Gerald E. Boyd
To get the latest edition, send e-mail to one of the addresses below.
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This document is the standard document about accessing the internet via
email. You shouldn't ask questions already covered in this document.
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4 U S E R I E S
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"The 4u-series" from Bob Appleton
These files show in specific detail how to use email to
retrieve files, programs and documents from FTP and WWW sites, etc.
In other words, how to get just about anything by email. The files
are FREE and everything mentioned in them is also FREE. You can now
get these files individually or together in zipped format as well as
in text format. Substitute the file that you want in place of the XXX
in the URL below and add a line for each additional file requested.
Files available are:
email4u.txt getit4u.txt fun4u.txt pix4u.txt
email4u.zip getit4u.zip fun4u.zip pix4u.zip 4useries.zip
Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and in the body of the message:
send ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/iv/iverham/XXX
Only the .txt files are available here:
send http://members.aol.com/bombagirl/freeware/XXX
They are also available via an autoresponder.
Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This will tell you how to get each of the documents. They are the full
text, not zipped, so Juno users won't be able to get the email4u file.
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U S E N E T
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To learn about Usenet, Usenet access and newsgroups, Uzi Paz provides
a file that is invaluable. If you are unfamiliar with these topics,
get this file before sending for other files mentioned in Bob Appleton's
document.
Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of the message
use ONE of the following:
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send ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/iv/iverham/ua.zip
send http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1131/ua.txt
send http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1131/ua.zip
send http://members.aol.com/bombagirl/freeware/ua.txt
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W W W S E A R C H E N G I N E S
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If your question has something to do with www-search engines
like Altavista, Hotbot, etc, or in general fill-out-forms on WWW sites,
be sure to read "Accessing the Internet via email - User guide to WWW
search engines" by Gerald E. Boyd.
This faq covers the access to all major search-engines, there is a
document with all available help-files (wshelp.faq) and also a document
that how to "crack" such a form yourself (wscrack.faq).
Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of the message
use the following:
send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsintro.faq
send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wshelp.faq
send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wscrack.faq
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J U N O A C C M A I L
=======================
If you are a Juno mail user, then subscribe to the Juno_accmail
mailing lists:
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BODY:
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For the individual postings version:
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Replace <your [EMAIL PROTECTED]> with your real name and e-mail
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There is also an autoresponder.
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This will provide you with a list of documents that are available.
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M O N T H L Y P O S T I N G S E T C.
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Gary Wines has made available THE "EM_AI MANUAL" which is a
FREEWARE collection of manuals for accessing the internet by email,
presented in an executable file with search, print, save, edit to file
features.
Included in this DOS program are:
Perry Rovers Anonymous FTP (FAQ)
Biran Edmonds FAQ Mailing List Etiquette
Gerald E. Boyd's Guide to Search Engines
Gerald E. Boyd's Guide to Offline Internet Access
Mailing List Etiquette by Brian Edmonds
Pix4u, Email4u, Getit4u, Fun4U by Bob Appleton
Also included are all kinds of other useful files...
Current MS-DOS version
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/mailnews/em_ai40.zip
Current Windows 3.x version
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/info/emaiw18.zip
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S U B J E C T L I N E S
=========================
Mail should have a meaningful subject heading which reflects the
content of the message -- it helps others to find messages of interest
(and is necessary if you receive a lot of messages per day), and it
helps to follow a thread on a particular topic.
Non-meaningful subjects are:
1. empty or blank subjects
2. Subject: I need help
3. Subject: A question
4. Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest ....
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O F F - T O P I C
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Make sure your post isn't off-topic. In particular, this mailing
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- Do you want to make $$$.
- I want to chat with someone.
- Hi, I'm new to the list and I want to make friends.
- General use of your computer -- instead ask a specific question like
is there a FAQ available on modems?
- Where do I get this or that software -- instead ask how to retrieve it
via email.
- Where do I find information on ??? -- instead ask how do I find
information concerning ??? via email.
- Windows 95 problems -- instead ask where do I find information
regarding a problem (email address, mailing list, web page. etc.)
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N E T I Q U E T T E
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DON'T include the entire contents of a previous posting in your reply.
DO cut mercilessly. Leave just enough to indicate what you're
responding to. NEVER include mail headers except maybe the "From:"
line. If you can't figure out how to delete lines in your mailer
software, paraphrase or type the quoted material in.
DON'T SEND A MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS. CAPITALIZED MESSAGES ARE HARDER TO
READ THAN LOWER CASE OR MIXED CASE.
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DON'T send messages with HTML coding or MIME extensions.
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information which includes your return address. In order to ensure that
people know who you are, be sure to include a line or two at the end of
your message with contact information. You can create this file ahead
of time and add it to the end of your messages. (Some mailers do this
automatically.) In Internet parlance, this is known as a ".sig" or
"signature" file. Your .sig file takes the place of your business card.
(And you can have more than one to apply in different circumstances.)
If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb is no longer
than 4 lines. Remember that many people pay for connectivity by the
minute, and the longer your message is, the more they pay.
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them a chance to wake up, come to work, and login before assuming the
mail didn't arrive or that they don't care.
In general, most people who use the Internet don't have time to answer
general questions about the Internet and its workings. Don't send unsoli
cited mail asking for information to people whose names you might have
seen on mailing lists (especially *MINE*)
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software that works well, please inform the list. Likewise, for support
and help lines.
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subject line with NEWS:
If you considered all these files and my comments, your post will likely
be very welcome on ACCMAIL and everybody will try to help you with your
problems.
If not, you're likely to get a short answer referencing one of the files
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:07:48 +0300
From: Esmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: JUNO
I am new to accmail and recently, people have been talking about juno email. what is
it, and can it be subscribed to by email
through webmail or equivilant?
Zak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/9404
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:51:34 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Zip files from www4mail are wrong
Hello,
Is it me unlucky or is it www4mail's fault? Lately *every* request I have
issued has come up as a result to a damaged zip file in my InBox. I also
tried to fix the zip file with pkzipfix. It actually messaged that the CRC
was corrected but the file is unreadable nevertheless.
Anyone else experiencing the same?
Thanks a lot,
Elek
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:25:36 GMT
From: Virginia Da Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TRUNCATED DIGESTS
On 26 Jan 1999 Jerel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>
> The most common cause of this, is a begin ### sequence (usually near the
> beginning of a line) imbedded in the digest. I would not expect
> MegaReader, not even an OS/2 version (Is that not what MR/2 is above?) to
> be affected by this, but...
MR/2 is a qwk compatible offline reader for OS/2 text mode and has never caused
any problems with ### sequence in UUencoded files (it cannot even try to decode,
I do this manually) - its only limitation is if the digest is over 1000 lines,
in which case I read it on KWQ - another OS/2 reader.
> What happens with some readers is that they see the begin ### line, and
> think that is the beginning of a UU-encoded file, and block the rest of
> the message, in this case the rest of the digest, from showing in the
> text display. Simultaneously, they attempt to provide a decoded
> "attachment".
Neither of my readers do this, but both show truncation in the same places, so I
can't think the problem lies with the readers, or with my system. I've been
subscribed to Accmail for over two years and the problem has only recently
become really bad.
> The other cure may be to not take the list as digests.
The digests are the most convenient form, and getting them off the web site
defeats the purpose!
borracha
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� MR/2 2.1 NR �
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:25:38 GMT
From: Virginia Da Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TRUNCATED DIGESTS
On 01-28-99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Accmail Discussion List <:
>Virginia:
>
>You sent your problem to the list as an attachment.
>
Let's get the record straight! If you look back you will see that my message was
in plain text - my mailer does not support any kind of attachment, either for
sending or receiving, and I suffer the same annoyance and inconvenience as
everyone else on the list from thoughtless or ignorant people who try to post
non-ASCII messages.
I think the truncation problem lies elsewhere.
borracha
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� MR/2 2.1 NR �
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:17:39 -0800
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TRUNCATED DIGESTS
At 12:25 AM 2/1/99 GMT, Virginia Da Costa wrote the following:
>Neither of my readers do this, but both show truncation in the same
places, so I
>can't think the problem lies with the readers, or with my system. I've
been
>subscribed to Accmail for over two years and the problem has only
recently
>become really bad.
I'm beginning to wonder if it's me. Did this start in mid-December? If
so, that's when I started using this new machine and Windows 98 with
Eudora rather than my OS/2 box and PMMmail.
When postings are sent to me for approval, I always try to look for
attachments and HTML coding. Most of these I reject. Sometimes I let
through a HTML coded message just to make a point to explain to the
list members.
I don't get the digest so I never would see truncation. I know I don't
see it any of the single postings as I get all of them. Confusing to
say the least. The LISTSERV software has not been changed except for
the owner and some comments.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:50:03 -0800
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: JUNO
At 05:07 PM 2/1/99 +0300, Esmail wrote the following:
>I am new to accmail and recently, people have been talking about juno
email. what is it, and can it be subscribed to by email
>through webmail or equivilant?
You can't use it in Kenya. It's for US residents only.
Excerpt from the FAQ:
You can use Juno from anywhere in the United States or Puerto Rico.
Today, there is no international version of Juno for use by people outside
these areas (and due to U.S. export limitations, we are only permitted to
download copies of the Juno software to computers in the U.S.).
Note that when you use Juno from within the United States, you can
exchange e-mail with people located anywhere in the world.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:58:21 EST
From: Ulf Gruener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: history of eMail?
Hi Accmailers,
I'm looking for information about the history of mail:
- who invents this service?
- when starts mail as part of internet?
- what's the first mail ever?
And so on ...
Perhaps anybody can help, with information or URL.
Thanks in advance!
Ulf Gruener
(journalist)
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:15:48 -0800
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: history of eMail?
At 05:58 PM 2/1/99 EST, Ulf Gruener wrote the following:
>I'm looking for information about the history of mail:
>- who invents this service?
>- when starts mail as part of internet?
>- what's the first mail ever?
>And so on ...
>Perhaps anybody can help, with information or URL.
Ray Tomlinson either in late 1971 or early 1972
Tomlinson worked for Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN), the company hired
by the United States Defense Department in 1968 to build ARPANET, the
forerunner of the Internet.
BBN Timeline
http://www.bbn.com/customer_connection/timeline.htm
Hobbes Internet
Timeline
http://info.isoc.org/guest/zakon/Internet/History/HIT.html
The First E-Mail Message
http://www.pretext.com/mar98/features/story2.htm
History of the Internet (many locations on the 'net)
http://www.websigh.com/history.html
Originally published in the Annals of Computing by IEEE (I think)
"Standardizing Network Mail Headers", RFC 561
Bhushan, Abhay, Ken Pogran, Ray Tomlinson, and Jim White
Birth of the Internet
http://smithsonian.yahoo.com/arpanet2.html
The "@" sign
http://whatis.com/atsign.htm
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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