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Topics of the day:

  1. web site that uses snail addresses
  2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
  3. Setting job priority in FTP mailers
  4. How to setup an autoresponder
  5. CharacterSets
  6. Question on get Web link (2)
  7. X before the link
  8. No problem with the address
  9. e-mail adress
 10. Ask about free Home page
 11. NEWS: MP3 search engine
 12. Not a recognized Internet host !!! (2)

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Date:    Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:03:17 PST
From:    "T.Shook/ InfNet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: web site that uses snail addresses

Trying to find a web site that delivers a complete or SOME data of
a company by just entering a mailing address; city, state and zip..

Know of any?

T. Shook
Info Network
Seattle



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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:01:29 GMT
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics

FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Thu 4 Feb 1999, posted Fri 5 Feb, 06:00 GMT/BST

Less than 1 hour

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1-4 hours

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4-10 hours

None


More than 10 hours

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Response within 4 hours in at least 5 out of 7 recent tests

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This data is generated automatically around 0600 GMT/BST most
days. The performance reported is dependant on many factors and your
experience may vary. You can also access this list:

     On the Web at http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/stats.htm
     By FTP at ftp://ftp.cix.co.uk/pub/net-services/stats.txt
     Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and say
     "get file stats.txt" (no quotes)

Want this list every day? Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the
body of your message put "join statistics" (no quotes)

No liability is accepted for inaccuracies. Mirroring, links to and
copying of this entire file (not extracts) is permitted until further
notice.

Slow downloads? Try Mr. Cool!
See http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/

Copyright Net Services 1999.

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:16:21 +0530
From:    Saurabh Singhania <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting job priority in FTP mailers

I generally use one of the following FTP mailers to retrieve files from anonymous ftp 
sites:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does anyone know why all of the ftp-mailers (except [EMAIL PROTECTED]) sets the job 
priority to 9 (lowest) by default?

Is there a way by which the job can be put on a higher priority so that it is 
completed more quickly?

At times, a job 65th in the queue with a priority of 9 takes more than 4 days to 
complete!!

Saurabh Singhania

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:05:51 +0200
From:    Uzi Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to setup an autoresponder

> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:08:33 +0800
> From: Russel Oberio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Is it possible to setup an autoresponder on a POP3 account?
> How? Do I need any softwares for this?  Are there any free
> softwares?

A simple autoresponder that whenever you pull messages from your POP3
account, identifies which of them are meant for being autoresponded and
autoresponds to them is offered by many e-mail programs (I have this
option on my Pegasus e-mail software. I think that some of the other
software also allows it.
If you wish to do it, check for the filtering options. On Pegasus Mail
(http://www.pmail.com) you just set a filter with instructions that if
several conditions are met, responds to the poster of the message.

There are a few things that one should know before setting an
autoresponder.
You want to prevent loops, and you want to give instructions for people
who use your autoresponder incorrectly. The second may look trivial at
first, but it is not. The first doesn't look trivial, and indeed it isn't.

Let's say that you want to set a simple autoresponder so that whenever one
wants to get your recent article, one has to post a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject "get article.txt", and when you
download your pop3 messages your e-mail software will automatically
respond to such a message. Nice, but if this option become popular, people
will assume that your autoresponder has other things to offer, and will
try to post "help", "info", "get index", to your e-mail address.
Further more, all combinations of capital letters with small letters,
"send" instead of "get", message in the body instead of the subject and so
on, will appear and all of them will find their way to your mailbox.

You may decide to use a forwarding service as your autoresponding address
so that it would be clear that what is posted to the one address is for
your autoresponder, and posts that are addressed directly to your address
are meant for you. In such a case you may decide to autorespond with a
help file whenever some message was posted to the autoresponder's address
but the format of the comand was not recognized. This is excellent and
works well, but then you should pay attention to prevent loops.

You don't want that a bounced back message will generate a help file which
will generate a bounced back message etc. forever.

There are a few things to take care, when developing an autoresponder, not
all of them you are able to follow from many pop3 servers:
1) your autoresponder should have a null return-path
2) your autoresponder should ignore messages which have a null return path
3) your autoresponder should add the following header fields to its
messages:
 a) Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
 b) X-Loop: _autoresponder's_address_

4) also recommended (but not necessary) to add the following fields:
 a) Delivered-To: _autoresponder's_address_
 b) Precedence: bulk

5) Your autoresponder should not autorespond to messages that contain:
 a) "X-Loop:" header field.
 b) the "Auto-Submitted" header field, unless it is "auto-submitted: no".

6) You may also set it to ignore messages that contain words which might
suggest that it is not a request. e.g. if a message contain the word
"error", your autoresponder should not respond to the message.

Comments:
* The setting of the return path might be a problem because many ISPs do
not allow the user to set it, but set it by themselves.

* If you assume that the trafic into your autoresponder will be very
small, you may decide that whenever a message which does not match exactly
the format will find its way to your mailbox (instead of being
autoresponded with a help file), this will add some burden to you, but
will drastically reduce the risk of producing loops.

* The return path is usually found in incoming messages in the
"Return-Path:" header field. You may check if it is produced for incoming
messages (the return path, is in fact part of thje SMTP commands and not
part of the message header, but the convention is that when the message
leaves the SMTP environment, the last server takes the "From " address
from the SMTP envelope (Notice the that is not the "From:" header field),
and put it in the header, with the "Return-Path:" header field.

In principle, bounced messages should use the return path, and not the
address in the "From:" or "Reply-To:" field, but unfortunately, many mail
servers do not comply with Internet standards, and thus known to cause
problems.

Uzi

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:00:53 +0100
From:    Willem Rabbeljee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CharacterSets

Hi,
Thanks first for all the fruitfull answers to my question concerning
obtaining weather by E-mail; I get several forecasts now dayly in my
mailbox.
Another problem I'm dealing with now is the following:
I'm dutch, and while mailing I get a lot of German and French mail. Of
course English too, but this isn't giving me problems because Dutch and
English character set is equal. This is different with French and German
characters cause they contain special characters with umlauts and accents.
Getting French and German documents leave me with incomplete words where
accented and characters with umlaut are substituted by non alphabetic
characters.
My knowledge of French and German allows me to understand the text anyway,
but, for cosmetical reasons it would be very nice if I could receive or
change these 'incomplete' texts WITH the original French and German
characters.
Is this possible? Can I do this while receiving, or is there a way to
convert these texts after receiving?
For the sake of completeness: I'am a Macintosh-user and I have my keyboard
set to USA-English character set.
Bye,

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:35:52 +0700
From:    Nguyen Duc Hoan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question on get Web link

I am using Lotus Notes on server and MS Internet Explorer version 3.0. I am
trying to get the link as description below, but I am fail:

"... www4mail will reply with the requested Web document as an e-mail
attachment which you can visualize with any standard Web browser like
Netscape, Internet explorer, Lynx, etc.  Therein, the original page layout
(tables, colours, etc) will be preserved.

You can obtain interest messages by selecting the respective buttons and
clicking the `Get Selected Document(s)' button at the footer of the Web
page to make a new, single e-mail request to www4mail...".


" XBYJS  (use one option line only!)
       Some Web browsers are not capable of transmitting data by e-mail,
       e.g., MS-IE v3.0. This problem usually shows up after you check
       the links that you would like to retrieve and select the "Get
       Selected Document(s)" button. What you get is that your mail
       program opens a new message with the address of the www4mail server
       appearing and the body of the message blank. You can use the XBYJS
       option to work-around this problem provided you are using a
       JavaScript compatible browser. Note: This work-around tries to fill
       in the Subject: line automatically instead of the message body
       needed by www4mail. But if you notice that the Subject: line is
       blank, you will need to cut out all characters starting from the ?
       sign in the To: field and paste them in the Subject: line manually."


When I am following the above guide, MS Exchange opens. How can Lotus Notes
open instead?
I am joining with ACCMail list with the same question 20 days ago, but no
reply.

Thanks in advance.

Nguyen Duc Hoan

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:13:03 +0000
From:    Hugh Sasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X before the link

On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Jerel D. Arbaugh wrote:

> >Date:    Sat, 30 Jan 1999 05:03:43 -0800
> >From:    mary m boondy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Hi all
> >
> >I replied to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >with X preceding [link] to autoretreive
> >the link.I got this:
> >An unexpected internal error occurred:
>
> Mary, I think you are confusing web-mail servers with gopher mail
> servers.  As far as I know, the gopher servers will not support this if
> used on a web address.

        No, this is an agora feature, which has worked since I
        fixed Arthur Secret's code in about version 0.7. (I.e,
        he deserves the credit for this idea and the bulk of
        its implementation, not me). I deduce that getweb doesn't support
        this, maybe becuase it is "expensive" -- agora has to get
        the original page to compare it with what you sent back.
>
> By "[link]" are you referring to [] with a number inside, or "[LINK]"
> literally?  I have seen the letter, and do not know how to use it, but

        I think [link] (literally) refers to a poor choice of alt tag
        in an image.  Lynx often throws this up. But I am not sure.

> for the former, you need to find the referenced number near the bottom of
> the message, and ask for that URL.  Messy.

        With agora you can just request them by number, provided
        the original URL is preserved in the Subject: line. That
        is to say you can just reply and have a message body of

        3 13 26

        I don't know if getweb supports this model either.  It
        would be worth getting the help file....
> --
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Jerel.
> ---
        Hugh
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:51:21 -0500
From:    RGC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No problem with the address

>Hi accmailers!
>I've got  some problems, I have a friend in Cuba his e-mail is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], but last two weeks I receive a returned mail with
many
>errors..What shell I do?

Hy every body:

Everything OK with my mail. Only a large files problem.
Thanks to Mr Boyd and all of you...

Rams�s.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Snake Face  :)~

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Date:    Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:25:38 +0800
From:    Raymond Tau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: e-mail adress

>Can anyone tell me how can I get an e-mail address, please ?
If you mean a free e-mail address, you may try wins.personet.net. Upon registered as a 
user(Free of charge), you will have a e-mail address which is accessable through SMTP 
and POP3 server(even telnet).
--
File Supporter
Personal Feeling.... Net (Virtual ISP)
URL : http://www.personet.net
Support : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:57:50 EDT
From:    Bahman Masarat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ask about free Home page

Hello
I wonder how can I create own Home page via Email (My mean is free Home
Page)
Regards
bahman

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:23:18 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEWS: MP3 search engine

Accmailers

Excerpt from Scout Report February 5, 1999 Volume 5, Number 39
17. Fast MP3 Search
http://mp3.lycos.com/

MP3, a file format that offers near-CD quality sound in very small file
sizes, is one of the most popular computerized audio technologies ever.
However, the widespread bootlegging of copyrighted music has also made it
rather controversial, especially where the recording industry is
concerned.
After discovering that MP3 was one of the most requested terms on its
search engines, Lycos decided to create a search engine just for MP3. Fast
MP3 Search currently contains over 500,000 files, searchable by artist or
song name. To assist users, an MP3 Server Reliability Guide ranks the more
than 1000 FTP servers accessed on a five star system, five being the most
reliable. Additional resources at the site include ranked links to MP3
players and encoders and a guide to getting started. Search returns do not
distinguish between pirated and legally provided songs, but Lycos has
agreed to work with the Recording Industry Association of America
(RIAA) to
combat copyright infringement. [MD]


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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:27:54 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question on get Web link

At 03:35 PM 2/5/99 +0700, Nguyen Duc Hoan wrote the following:

>I am using Lotus Notes on server and MS Internet Explorer version 3.0.
I am
>trying to get the link as description below, but I am fail:
>
>"... www4mail will reply with the requested Web document as an e-mail
>attachment which you can visualize with any standard Web browser like
>Netscape, Internet explorer, Lynx, etc.  Therein, the original page
layout
>(tables, colours, etc) will be preserved.
[...]
>When I am following the above guide, MS Exchange opens. How can Lotus
Notes
>open instead?
>I am joining with ACCMail list with the same question 20 days ago, but no
>reply.

I'll guess the rules are the same for Win 95 as they are for Win 98.
Click My Computer
Click View then Folder Options...
Click File Types Tab
Scroll through the list for the file type that is assocated with IE and
delete it
Add new type that is associated with Lotus Notes

Example:
You scroll through the list and find that IE is associated with .htm,
.html, .xbm, .shtml files. This means that IE opens every time you
click on an HTML type document link. In my case I wanted it to be
Netscape. So I deleted IE and added Netscape Hypertext Document. Opens
with Netscape, Extension: HTL HTML SHTML XBM, and Content Mime: text/html

Being as I only have used Windoze98 since 14Dec98, this might not be
the same for Win 95.

You can also edit the registry. The technical document for this is from
Netscape and covers Win 95, Netscape 4.05 and IE 4.0
http://help.netscape.com/kb/client/980502-2.html

Most of the entries are the same under Win 98 and Netscape 4.50



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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:35:32 GMT-6
From:    Francisco Novo Mesegue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Not a recognized Internet host !!!

Hi ACCMAILers !!

I am an E-mail only user of the Internet services and after having
used the PRINCETON server succesfully for downloading freeware during
more than a year, I am now facing a problem I can't understand.

In what has became my usual practice, I used the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
server for downloading a WebPage in HTML format from the NOSPIN
Group's WebSite, where a large number of URLs for free softwares
are available.  This page is named "Files at NOSPIN.com" and belongs
to Tom's Hardware's WebSite.

>From this page, I found the following URL, which belongs to one of
the many utilities I would like to have:

ftp://adsl12.bois.uswest.net/pub/nospin_files/diskspeed32.zip

I then wrote the following request to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

open ftp.adsl12.bois.uswest.net
cd /pub/nospin_files
get diskspeed32.zip
quit

Finally, I received the following BITFTP Reply:

> open ftp.adsl12.bois.uswest.net

>>>> FTP.ADSL12.BOIS.USWEST.NET is not a recognized Internet host.

Could somebody tell me If I'm doing something wrong.  I have tried
unsuccessfully with several of these URLs obtaining, in all cases,
the same BITFTP Reply   :-(

A lot of thanks in advance.


Frank.

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Date:    Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:17:21 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Not a recognized Internet host !!!

At 12:35 PM 2/5/99 GMT-6, Francisco Novo Mesegue wrote the following:

>I am an E-mail only user of the Internet services and after having
>used the PRINCETON server succesfully for downloading freeware during
>more than a year, I am now facing a problem I can't understand.
[...]
>From this page, I found the following URL, which belongs to one of
>the many utilities I would like to have:
>ftp://adsl12.bois.uswest.net/pub/nospin_files/diskspeed32.zip
[...]
>Finally, I received the following BITFTP Reply:
>
>> open ftp.adsl12.bois.uswest.net
>
>>>>> FTP.ADSL12.BOIS.USWEST.NET is not a recognized Internet host.

You put in an extra "ftp".   The command should be:
open adsl12.bois.uswest.net

The only time the ftp appears in the open request is if the site begins
with an ftp, as in ftp.microsoft.com


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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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