There are 14 messages totalling 796 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. ADMIN: Monthly Reminder (2) 2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics 3. downloadslave.com 4. www4mail problems 5. <No subject given> 6. Concatenating files & ... (2) 7. Concatenating files & ... (Ammendation to my previous comment) (2) 8. Files from WWW 9. Why digest (2) 10. How do you get a help file for [EMAIL PROTECTED]? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ACCMAIL Info (automatically generated) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To UNSUBscribe: Send UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To get the ACCMAIL FAQ: Send e-mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 08:07:41 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ADMIN: Monthly Reminder ===================== ACCMAIL Monthly Reminder ======================= Last Updated: 31Jan99 This message is intended to inform you what to do before posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the mailing list discussing "Accessing the Internet via E-mail". ============= P U R P O S E ============= This list exists as a forum for communicating news, comments and questions about the FAQ with the same name, written by Gerald E. Boyd This is the place to find out about new versions, ask questions about the current version, make suggestions for additions/deletions, etc. Note: ACCMAIL is a MODERATED list, which means that all postings will be sent to a human for review before being posted to the list. Read the FAQs that are available. =============================================================== G U I D E T O O F F L I N E I N T E R N E T A C C E S S =============================================================== "Accessing The Internet By E-Mail" from Gerald E. Boyd To get the latest edition, send e-mail to one of the addresses below. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for US, Canada & South America) Enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for Europe, Asia, etc.) Enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send lis-iis e-access-inet.txt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: send accmail.faq You can also get the file by anonymous FTP at one of these sites: Site: rtfm.mit.edu get pub/usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email Site: ftp.mailbase.ac.uk get pub/lists/lis-iis/files/e-access-inet.txt This document is the standard document about accessing the internet via email. You shouldn't ask questions already covered in this document. ================= 4 U S E R I E S ================= "The 4u-series" from Bob Appleton These files show in specific detail how to use email to retrieve files, programs and documents from FTP and WWW sites, etc. In other words, how to get just about anything by email. The files are FREE and everything mentioned in them is also FREE. You can now get these files individually or together in zipped format as well as in text format. Substitute the file that you want in place of the XXX in the URL below and add a line for each additional file requested. Files available are: email4u.txt getit4u.txt fun4u.txt pix4u.txt email4u.zip getit4u.zip fun4u.zip pix4u.zip 4useries.zip Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of the message: send ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/iv/iverham/XXX Only the .txt files are available here: send http://members.aol.com/bombagirl/freeware/XXX They are also available via an autoresponder. Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will tell you how to get each of the documents. They are the full text, not zipped, so Juno users won't be able to get the email4u file. =========== U S E N E T =========== To learn about Usenet, Usenet access and newsgroups, Uzi Paz provides a file that is invaluable. If you are unfamiliar with these topics, get this file before sending for other files mentioned in Bob Appleton's document. Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of the message use ONE of the following: send ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/iv/iverham/ua.txt send ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/iv/iverham/ua.zip send http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1131/ua.txt send http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1131/ua.zip send http://members.aol.com/bombagirl/freeware/ua.txt =================================== W W W S E A R C H E N G I N E S =================================== If your question has something to do with www-search engines like Altavista, Hotbot, etc, or in general fill-out-forms on WWW sites, be sure to read "Accessing the Internet via email - User guide to WWW search engines" by Gerald E. Boyd. This faq covers the access to all major search-engines, there is a document with all available help-files (wshelp.faq) and also a document that how to "crack" such a form yourself (wscrack.faq). Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of the message use the following: send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsintro.faq send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wshelp.faq send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wscrack.faq ======================= J U N O A C C M A I L ======================= If you are a Juno mail user, then subscribe to the Juno_accmail mailing lists: For the digest version: TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BODY: subscribe juno_accmail-digest <your [EMAIL PROTECTED]> For the individual postings version: TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BODY: subscribe juno_accmail <your [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Replace <your [EMAIL PROTECTED]> with your real name and e-mail address There is also an autoresponder. Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will provide you with a list of documents that are available. ======================================== M O N T H L Y P O S T I N G S E T C. ======================================== Gary Wines has made available THE "EM_AI MANUAL" which is a FREEWARE collection of manuals for accessing the internet by email, presented in an executable file with search, print, save, edit to file features. Included in this DOS program are: Perry Rovers Anonymous FTP (FAQ) Biran Edmonds FAQ Mailing List Etiquette Gerald E. Boyd's Guide to Search Engines Gerald E. Boyd's Guide to Offline Internet Access Mailing List Etiquette by Brian Edmonds Pix4u, Email4u, Getit4u, Fun4U by Bob Appleton Also included are all kinds of other useful files... Current MS-DOS version ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/mailnews/em_ai40.zip Current Windows 3.x version ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/info/emaiw18.zip ========================= S U B J E C T L I N E S ========================= Mail should have a meaningful subject heading which reflects the content of the message -- it helps others to find messages of interest (and is necessary if you receive a lot of messages per day), and it helps to follow a thread on a particular topic. Non-meaningful subjects are: 1. empty or blank subjects 2. Subject: I need help 3. Subject: A question 4. Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest .... ================= O F F - T O P I C ================= Make sure your post isn't off-topic. In particular, this mailing list doesn't deal with topics like: - Do you want to make $$$. - I want to chat with someone. - Hi, I'm new to the list and I want to make friends. - General use of your computer -- instead ask a specific question like is there a FAQ available on modems? - Where do I get this or that software -- instead ask how to retrieve it via email. - Where do I find information on ??? -- instead ask how do I find information concerning ??? via email. - Windows 95 problems -- instead ask where do I find information regarding a problem (email address, mailing list, web page. etc.) =================== N E T I Q U E T T E =================== DON'T include the entire contents of a previous posting in your reply. DO cut mercilessly. Leave just enough to indicate what you're responding to. NEVER include mail headers except maybe the "From:" line. If you can't figure out how to delete lines in your mailer software, paraphrase or type the quoted material in. DON'T SEND A MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS. CAPITALIZED MESSAGES ARE HARDER TO READ THAN LOWER CASE OR MIXED CASE. DO use normal capitalization. Separate your paragraphs with blank lines. Make your message inviting to your potential readers. DON'T send messages with HTML coding or MIME extensions. DO learn how to change your E-mail program so that it sends only plain text ASCII to the list. Make things easy for the recipient. Many mailers strip header information which includes your return address. In order to ensure that people know who you are, be sure to include a line or two at the end of your message with contact information. You can create this file ahead of time and add it to the end of your messages. (Some mailers do this automatically.) In Internet parlance, this is known as a ".sig" or "signature" file. Your .sig file takes the place of your business card. (And you can have more than one to apply in different circumstances.) If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb is no longer than 4 lines. Remember that many people pay for connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is, the more they pay. Remember that people with whom you communicate are located across the globe. If you send a message to which you want an immediate response, the person receiving it might be at home asleep when it arrives. Give them a chance to wake up, come to work, and login before assuming the mail didn't arrive or that they don't care. In general, most people who use the Internet don't have time to answer general questions about the Internet and its workings. Don't send unsoli cited mail asking for information to people whose names you might have seen on mailing lists (especially *MINE*) =================================================== D I G E S T A N D S I N G L E P O S T I N G S =================================================== If you wish to receive the digest version of ACCMAIL (that is, all postings combined together and sent out at the end of each day): To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leave blank] body of the message SET ACCMAIL DIGEST If you wish to receive the individual postings to ACCMAIL (that is, each posting as it is approved in a separate message): To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leave blank] body of the message SET ACCMAIL NODIGESTS or SET ACCMAIL MAIL ========= O T H E R ========= If you have had good luck with a piece of email software or email software that works well, please inform the list. Likewise, for support and help lines. ACCMAIL uses LISTSERV "topics", which allows people to subscribe to a subset of postings. If you have any postings that are important announcements about new servers, new tecniques, etc. please prefix the subject line with NEWS: If you considered all these files and my comments, your post will likely be very welcome on ACCMAIL and everybody will try to help you with your problems. If not, you're likely to get a short answer referencing one of the files mentioned here, or sometimes no answer at all! For discussion of this file, I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ============================= END ==================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 04:30:40 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Fri 30 Apr 1999, posted Sat, 01 May 1999 03:28:54 GMT Less than 1 hour [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-4 hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4-10 hours None More than 10 hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Response within 4 hours in at least 5 out of 7 recent tests [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't reply to .net or .com addresses. This data is generated automatically around 0600 GMT/BST most days. The performance reported is dependant on many factors and your experience may vary. You can also access this list: On the Web at http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/stats.htm By FTP at ftp://ftp.cix.co.uk/pub/net-services/stats.txt Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and say "get file stats.txt" (no quotes) Want this list every day? Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of your message put "join statistics" (no quotes) No liability is accepted for inaccuracies. Mirroring, links to and copying of this entire file (not extracts) is permitted until further notice. Slow downloads? Try Mr. Cool! See http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/ Copyright Net Services 1999. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 12:38:16 +0200 From: "Johannes M. Posel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: downloadslave.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dear David, At 03:25 27.04.99 +0100, you wrote: >David (who is English, lives in Germany and is a state approved translator) >## CrossPoint v3.11 ## And who seems to know the only real OS :)= Nurn kleiner Scherz hehe ;)= C'ya -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 6.0.2ckt for YOUR privacy :)= iQEVAwUBNyrLiAt4MvNz1i1BAQFXOQgAowiLnk5xc840ielUx9IjZcPBvW5wL2qh Q0t4qKXMHqdJIXicbVCVbf8ZuQ+jQdqPGJNrBm+cSYOuJiJ4N5y9XESxHdDKfXEF N+ZzX4FkXFdG7Qo31KOLC7QxvFv+bwmSBlsk46ef/OubGbuNLq00Xc6BCJ+8tYlz 94L6LacSdG9wfLAT3wGWNZXFL1vjqCntOpsKGMv+efZoO2VcOkBg+j4tJ8BtKNTU pBU7QLlxQwe+wEkFAPD8fXBZCf2Q6N/hdiqfQ6k+Fm2yfvU/eEaNSgHyuqxZWMpb L1CgCnRG/Qik66xDMNhtgcuoRm0CJFbbpucy9nmtcYpp2qWRlLqB8Q== =CHqU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ~ Johannes Posel ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~ Homepage @ http://posel.home.pages.de ~ ~ Reality always seems harsher in the early morning ~ ~ Made in W-Germany, content includes 100 percent electrons ~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:20:39 +0200 From: Thomas Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: www4mail problems On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:45:58 +0530 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Hi, > i actually sent some URl's to [EMAIL PROTECTED] our >mailer deamon returned these mails saying that it was not able to >reach to that adddress. Just from my experience: Unganisha has been more reliable and faster than others during last days. Same say "FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics". If you've typed your request correctly and the requested URL is also o.k., than I'd suppose you've been temporarily out of luck. >Also i never received any reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 10:15:21 +330 From: Masoud Eghtedari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: <No subject given> Hi everybody. I don't receive any mail from this server could any one tell me why? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 07:24:02 -0500 From: Bruce Cordero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Concatenating files & ... > I tried The tip of combining the files from the dos prompt and > it works fine, but it is tedious especially with messages split > into 50 parts and the dos command character limit. Does anyone > know of a utility to combine files automatically? Another possibility suggested by IBMDOS 5.0's help for the COPY command (use COPY/?) is the following: > To append files, specify a single file for destination, but > multiple files for source (using wildcards or file1+file2+file3 ^^^^^^^^^ > format). So instead of using: COPY FILE.001+FILE.002+FILE.003 FILE.UUE you can just enter: COPY FILE.* FILE.UUE or some similar usage. The required preparations are that all the headers are stripped off the uuencoded parts except for part one. Also, you can not have any other files in the directory of type FILE.* or they will also be added at some place in the destination file. Sincerely, Bruce Cordero [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 08:29:08 -0500 From: Bruce Cordero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Concatenating files & ... (Ammendation to my previous comment) > So instead of using: > > COPY FILE.001+FILE.002+FILE.003 FILE.UUE > > you can just enter: > > COPY FILE.* FILE.UUE I e-spoke way too soon and now I have to ammend my words. I did little more experimentation with this, after I sent the first message of course. I learned that the COPY command isn't quite as smart as I took for granted. It does do as above BUT, it does not first sort the source files by name or extension. Instead, it appends them by what time they were created. So, for the above simple form to work you need to make sure that the parts were saved into the directrory in the same time order as they are named. I tried to simplify the process and only confused the issue. Boy, computers sure can be dumb! I guess that's why the operator has to be smarter than the computer. I'm in trouble. Bruce Cordero [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 08:43:12 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Concatenating files & ... (Ammendation to my previous comment) At 08:29 AM 5/1/99 -0500, Bruce Cordero wrote: >Boy, computers sure can be dumb! I guess that's why the operator >has to be smarter than the computer. Couldn't agree more. As I always teach in my computer classes, computers are "obedient idiots", they do exactly as told (programmed) and no more. The operator (programmer) has to be extremely logical. Unfortunately, too many instructions are written in "computerese" which doesn't help the matter. Another reason for the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) principle. -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 02:43:43 +0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Concatenating files & ... At 07:24 AM 01-05-99 -0500, you wrote: >> I tried The tip of combining the files from the dos prompt and >> it works fine, but it is tedious especially with messages split >> into 50 parts and the dos command character limit. Does anyone >> know of a utility to combine files automatically? yes, for win9x. File Split File Split is an Application which splits a single File into several Files with a certain Filesize. It can rejoin multiple files into one file by contacting them one by one into a chosen single file. Get it from simtel. It was in the win95/fileutil or something like that Good luck Sen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:47:46 -0300 From: C H E E T A H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Files from WWW Hi, I'm Luis Eduardo Wainer (20), writting from Buenos AIres, Argentina. Por lo que veo aca se escribe en ingles. A donde fueres haz lo que vieres... Im an agora user, ex wwwfetch, and have questions about it. Is it possible to download files and/or images from www through agora www4mail, or another wwwmail service? Which other (if any)? I mean something like wwwfetch (do you remember?) but free. Asking for COURCE to agora servers, they retrieve only the paeg format, but not data files (mean zip, exe, com, not the htm ones) or images. Any suggestion? Thanks Luis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 18:10:57 -0300 From: C H E E T A H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Why digest Since I'm subscribed I receive just digest mails. I would like to receive every message separately, (not digest). I can't find the right command to the listserv. Could you help me please? Thank you Luis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 01:47:18 +0300 From: Uzi Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why digest > Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 18:10:57 -0300 > From: C H E E T A H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Since I'm subscribed I receive just digest mails. > I would like to receive every message separately, (not digest). > I can't find the right command to the listserv. There are a few possible settings for the way you can receive messages from a listserv list: * In order to receive messages in a non-digest format (as seperate messages) senda message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following line as the BODY of your message: SET ACCMAIL NODIG For those who are already set their subscription to receive messages seperate there are a few further options: according to the following keywords (use only one of them): 1) FULLHDR to receive messages will all header fields 2) SHORTHDR to receive only header fields which a typical subscriber may use. 3) SUBJECTHDR similar to full header but the messages you receive from Accmail will include the tag [Accmail] added to the subject of Accmail's messages. 4) DUALHDR adds the important headers to the BODY of the messages from Accmail. It is good when one uses a network that removes the original headers. You may use one of the keywords in a command in the following manner. SET ACCMAIL keyword e.g. SET ACCMAIL SUBJECTHDR (as before all Listserv commands shoulds be posted to the listserv address i.e. to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) You may combine the above command with nodig e.g. SET ACCMAIL NODIG SHORTHDR if one does not recieve messages in a Digest format, and willing to receive them in a digest format, there are to types of digest formats: "MIME Digest" and "NOMIME Digest". "NOMIME Digest" is a format in which Listserv bundles many messages into one message and the messages in the digest are just piled one below the other. "MIME Digest" also refer to bundling messages into a single message, but Listserev Uses MIME extension, and those e-mail programs which support it, allow the digest message to be seen as a folder which includes all messages as if they were messages in that folder. This option requires that the e-mail program will support it, and otherwise the NOMIME sigest is better. Setting to a digest format with MIME is made by the command: SET ACCMAIL DIG MIME or setting to a digest with NOMIME: SET ACCMAIL DIG NOMIME Those who like to read only few messages, may ask to receive only the index of the messages posted each day, by using the command: SET ACCMAIL INDEX You will then receive each day only the list of messages including a serial number for each of them, and you may use the reply option to request those messages that are of interest to you. I summarized only the important options for how to receive messages. A list of all options you may receive by sending the command: INFO REFCARD to the Listserv address. Uzi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 01:55:39 +0300 From: Uzi Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ADMIN: Monthly Reminder > Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 08:07:41 -0700 > From: Gerald E. Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [snipped] > =========== > U S E N E T > =========== > > To learn about Usenet, Usenet access and newsgroups, Uzi Paz provides > a file that is invaluable. If you are unfamiliar with these topics, > get this file before sending for other files mentioned in Bob Appleton's > document. > > Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of the message > use ONE of the following: > > send ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/iv/iverham/ua.txt > send ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/iv/iverham/ua.zip > send http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1131/ua.txt > send http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1131/ua.zip > send http://members.aol.com/bombagirl/freeware/ua.txt I got a message from the maintainer of the site at CRL that since she intend to leave soon the CRL ISP she has no intention to update the version of ua.txt there to the recent one. Also at bombagirl's address the update is delayed. So at the moment Usenet Access Guide can be retreived either by sending an empty message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or in a zipped and uuencoded format by sending an empty message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or from http://www.wireworm.com/ua/ua.txt , or http://www.wireworm.com/ua/ua.zip (zip compressed). The Geocities site also has the recent version. CRL and AOL sites have a very old version. Uzi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:51:25 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How do you get a help file for [EMAIL PROTECTED]? At 07:11 PM 4/30/99 +0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following: >How do you get a help file for [EMAIL PROTECTED]? > >The servers list . . >http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.html >says "*COMPLICATED USE*" - anyone knows the format? It's defined in http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/howto1.html -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ End of ACCMAIL Digest - 30 Apr 1999 to 1 May 1999 (#1999-122) *************************************************************
