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Topics of the day:
1. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
2. MP3s (2)
3. RFC - is this files of Standart ? where i can find it ? (3)
4. <No subject given>
5. INFO> email to fax/internet faxing advancements
6. Y2K
7. ACCMAIL Digest - 11 May 1999 to 12 May 1999 (#1999-133)
8. POP-based vs web-based (Accessing email at SoftHome thru current email
account)
9. how can I read the file with the suffix of "pdf"?
10. How to figure out real file name? (2)
11. Just asking something else
12. Fright4U (2)
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 04:51:00 +0100
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Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:27:33 CDT
From: Matthew A Bahls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MP3s
Hey all,
Thanks for all the help on my last quesion about the ftpmailer at
princeton. I just tried it again and it worked, so maybe I was doing
something wrong or something. I'll be sure that if I get that again,
I'll send all the info to you all.
Now, for my next question. I just got a MP3 player and I want to check
out some mp3s off of the MP3 page. I have the band's URL that I want and
I found where you are supposed to download the MP3, but I can't seem to
download the MP3. Could somebody tell me if it is possible to download
them by accmail and how to do it? I tried to do it with WWW4Mail, but I
haven't got anything back yet. Also, is it possible to use Real Audio
without acutal Internet access?
Thanks,
Matt
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:46:56 +0400
From: Alex Protasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RFC - is this files of Standart ? where i can find it ? (3)
Hi
> I know what there is some official site with all internet and other
> Standarts. (if i know it is RFC files ).
> Where can i find it ??
from RFC-Server:
! The RFC-INFO service
! --------------------
!
!RFC-Info is an e-mail based service to help in locating and retrieving
!RFCs, FYIs, STDs, and IMRs. Users can ask for "lists" of all RFCs,
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!keywords, title, author, issuing organization, and date.
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:45:26 +0530
From: Tejinder Singh Rawal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <No subject given>
Try www.telebot.com
Tejinder
Middag, Mark, here is what you said:
{Hello ACCMAILERS,
{
{I finally found a free POP3 account at http://www.polbox.com,
{but I think it's really slow!
{
{For just sending a mail with the body "test"
{and not receiving any more messages, it takes 3 minutes time
{in PEGASUS.
{
{What could be the matter?
{If it is Poland (the long journey) that makes it slow, then
{where could I find a free POP3 account that is faster accessible?
{
{Thanks!
{
{Mark
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_____________________________________________________________
Tejinder Singh Rawal
M.Com. , M.A. ( Eco.) , M.A. ( Public Administration) , LL.B., FCA
Chartered Accountant, Nagpur, India
http://tax.indiainfo.com
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'Every man has his price. Mine is $3.95.'
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:47:39 +0530
From: Tejinder Singh Rawal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: INFO> email to fax/internet faxing advancements
Also see:
www.efax.com
Tejinder
Rajan, here is what you said:
{Sriram N. A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in ACCMAIL Digest - 10 May 1999
{to 11 May 1999 (#1999-132):-
{
{>Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:44:03 +0530
{>From: "Sriram N. A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
{>Subject: INFO> email to fax/internet faxing advancements
{>
{>See
{>http://www.freefax.net/ffservice.htm
{>
{>for an interesting new approach to internet faxing.
{>
{>--
{>Sriram N. A.
{>------------------------------
{Hi!
{
{For one thing, unlike TPC.INT, freefax is not entirely free - there is a
{registration charge (one-time?) if you are going to use it beyond 30 days.
{
{There is another site which claims free faxing via email. It is at:
{http://www.chinabusiness.org/freeware.htm
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{I don't know how it works but some one could try and evaluate it.
{
{Rajan
{12-5-99
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Tejinder Singh Rawal
M.Com. , M.A. ( Eco.) , M.A. ( Public Administration) , LL.B., FCA
Chartered Accountant, Nagpur, India
http://tax.indiainfo.com
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'Every man has his price. Mine is $3.95.'
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 07:52:32 -0500
From: "Gary R. Welles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Y2K
At 03:21 PM 5/12/99 -0700, Gerald E. Boyd wrote the following:
> IBM DOS 7.0 (with Y2K fix pak) and the new IBM DOS 2000 should meet the
> needs of any old DOS users that needs a Y2K fix for old PCs. M$ is not
> providing one!
> See http://www.software.ibm.com/os/dos/
Also DR DOS 7.0 which is free for personal use. In addition they sell a Y2K
fix package which works with M$ and IBM DOS. I assume that it is the same
sort of fix as the IBM Y2K fix pak.
See http://www.calderathin.com/
Gary
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:07:11 +0800
From: DJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 11 May 1999 to 12 May 1999 (#1999-133)
This is an answer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 's question about free pop email. I recently
found out some free POP emails too ... I hope these are helpful to you and anyone else
who wants Free POP emails. Unfortuantely, I've tried to
fill up thier registration forms via email - like I've done to some sites that
required registration like getting on the astrology.net freedaily email horoscope, and
sadly, this doesn't seem to work with these POP email
registrations. You have to be online to do this. If anyone discovers how to fill up
thier forms via email, please tell me too!! =)
Here's the list for the emails. This came from a friend of mine who found this site:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/3283/free_pop.html
Iname-- http://www.iname.com Free SMTP and forwarding, as well as Web based e-mail
service. Fast and fairly reliable. POP service also available for a monthly charge,
but why would you use it when you can have it forwarded to any
of the services below for free?
NTScan-- http://www.ntscan.com Formerly Computer Central, they are back and offering
free SMTP and POP services. Domain name is ntscan.com
Mail and News -- http://www.mailandnews.com Along with Telebot (above), one of only
two services thus far offering free IMAP as well as POP and SMTP service; impressive.
Domain name is mailandnews.com
FreeMail -- http://www.freemail.com Another of the newer free POP and SMTP services.
Domain is freemail.com
Flashmail -- http://www.flashmail.com A new Free POP and SMTP, and web-based service
from Hungary. Domain name is flashmail.com
CoolMail -- http://www.planetarymotion.com Not to be confused with the now-defunct,
Tonga-based Coolmail.to, Coolmail is a free POP and SMTP service which also enables
any US-based user to access e-mail over the phone! Domain is
coolmail.com
SaintMail -- http://www.saintmail.net A new free POP and SMTP service geared towards
Christians, but of course open to all. Domain is saintmail.net
Mail Planet -- http://www.mailplanet.com Another new and very interesting looking
service featuring free POP and SMTP service. Domain is mailplanet.com
Crosswinds http://www.crosswinds.net A service providing POP and SMTP, which allows
you to put your choice of a number of place names between the "@" and
crosswinds.net--e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Includes free home
page as well with unlimited space. They have now added Web based access to e-mail
accounts as well!
Asian Wired --Philippines based free POP, SMTP and Web based service. Domain name is
asianwired.com
Theatre Organs-- http://www.theatreorgans.com How's "theatreorgans.com" grab you as a
domain name with a difference?!
Personal Connections-- http://www.pemail.com -Another pop and web-based account. A
trifle slow. Domain is pemail.com
Net Taxi-- http://www.nettaxi.com Offers a free home page as well as POP and SMTP
access. Has shown recent improvement. Also reportedly now offering web-based mail
access. Domain is nettaxi.com
Freemark -- http://freemail.org.mk A new free SMTP and POP service based in Macedonia.
Domain name is freemail.org.mk
Topteam/web.bg-- http://www.topteam.bg/freemail English-language service based in
Bulgaria, account is activated within 24 hours. Address format is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
POPAccount -- http://www.popaccount.com A new free POP service based in India! Domain
name is popaccount.com
(POP Only section)
Fast Network Communications -- http://www.fnmail.com They have unfortunately
discontinued their SMTP service as too many people were using it for spam! Their POP
service is still very reliable, though. Domain name is fnmail.com
c3ntris-- http://www.c3ntris.com Like many people, when I initially saw this domain
name, I said, "Huh?" But they can't be too bad, after all, they're offering Free POP
e-mail accounts!
Friendly Mail -- http://www.mypad.com The latest of the well-known web-based e-mail
account providers to jump on the free POP account bandwagon.
New Mail -- http://www.newmail.net Another "new" web and POP based free e-mail
service. Domain is newmail.net
NFMail -- http://www.nfmail.com Another new POP service with no storage limit for
e-mail. Domain is nfmail.com
Geocities-- http://www.geocities.com The service on which this page is based! Offers
free home page as well as rather slow POP account. You have to search through one of
their virtual "neighborhoods" and find a "vacancy" to stake
your claim. No SMTP; see Iname above. Domain is geocities.com
I hope the above list helps you or anyone1
Now, I have a lil question of my own ... does WWW by MAIL Gateway
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> answer ftp:// ... requests anymore??
-DJ
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:20:57 +0530
From: "Sriram N. A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POP-based vs web-based (Accessing email at SoftHome thru current
email account)
Tejinder Singh Rawal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes it is POP based, and not web based. It POPs the mail to the mail
>account that you specify. Very good for people who do not have web access,
>or for people ( like me) who find it a bit boring to go to a website every
>time and check mail. This mail gets delivered to your computer and you can
>read it offline.
AFAIK, you need web-access to transact POP mail. In other words, you'd need
a full internet connection (or at least the ability to connect to ports 25
<SMTP> or 110 <POP3> of an ISP / Mail service provider to access mail).
"Going to a web site" or using a browser to manage mail is only a
convenience for those who have web access and the time and money to do it
this way. Some of the web-based services will allow one to use the SMTP/POP3
protocols to send / receive mails, usually for a fee, but you'd still need
web access to get at your mail on these servers; the advantage being reduced
online time.
>From further down the digest:
>The Net and the Web aren't synonymous, even though the media often
>mention them in the same breath. Using the Internet is not quite the
>same thing as "surfing the Web". Why? Because, time and again, surveys
>show that email is the number one Internet tool. Email is far more
>pervasive than Web access, and millions of people around the world use
>email but rarely (if ever) go on the Web.
Very true!
For instance, in Bangalore we have a free email service (tantriks.com) which
allows you to access email through the regular email software such as
Outlook Express using POP3/SMTP, but does not provide any other facilities.
It would be quite impossible to use this service to access email on another
server except possibly by accmail methods, which was, I think, the original
question in this thread. Again AFAIK it has never been demonstrated to be
possible even by accmail methods.
>There's one obvious reason for this big gap between email and Web use:
>a large proportion of users might have the Internet at work, but this
>is confined to email access.
I'd venture to guess a good proportion of accmail subscribers are corporate
users...
--
Sriram N. A.
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:30:51 +0530
From: "Sriram N. A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how can I read the file with the suffix of "pdf"?
"Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>For Accmailers, you must use a separate Adobe Acrobat reader program.
I might add here that if you are interested only in the text content of the
pdf source, there's a handy conversion service from Adobe.com:
Just send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the URL of the .pdf file in the
body of the message.
Ahem, (redfaced) I had made a mistake in the email address while reporting
that the service was down... how many did notice the error?!
--
Sriram N. A.
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:16:31 +0300
From: "Alexander F. Chernetsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to figure out real file name?
Hi, ACCMAILers!
I use www4mail to get html files from internet.
To retrieve the original, UNMODIFIED HTML sources as an e-mail
attachment I use TSOURCE command.
Some HTML files contains references like this:
<A HREF="aaa/bbbb/">
As you can see, file name is absent.
I send "TSOURCE http://www.server.ccc/aaa/bbbb/" and get needed
file as attachment. But it's name looks like "www.server.ccc_aaa_bbbb".
Naturally, reference on this file doesn't work.
When w3mail was alive it always send me files with real names
and there was no problem.
_Question_: How can I figure out real file name?
With regards, Alexander.
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:48:58 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to figure out real file name?
At 01:16 PM 5/13/99 +0300, Alexander F. Chernetsky wrote the following:
>I use www4mail to get html files from internet.
>To retrieve the original, UNMODIFIED HTML sources as an e-mail
>attachment I use TSOURCE command.
>Some HTML files contains references like this:
><A HREF="aaa/bbbb/">
>As you can see, file name is absent.
>I send "TSOURCE http://www.server.ccc/aaa/bbbb/" and get needed
>file as attachment. But it's name looks like "www.server.ccc_aaa_bbbb".
>Naturally, reference on this file doesn't work.
>When w3mail was alive it always send me files with real names
>and there was no problem.
>_Question_: How can I figure out real file name?
The HREF you are referring to is called a relative reference. The
reference is related to the location of the original web page.
For instance, let's say that you asked for a web page
hhtp://www.somewhere.net/index.html
and in this page there is an HREF that shows /backgrounds/orange.html
then the full path to the new document is:
hhtp://www.somewhere.net/backgrounds/color.html
If the HREF has a number sign (#) in it, then this a relative link to a
location somewhere in the same web page.
For instance, in my howto1.html document, you may see a HREF like
<A HREF="#ftpgoph">FTP Files By Gophermail</A>
This indicates that there is a section in the document with a link to
this reference. When you click on the link you are directed down in the
document to a section marked as follows:
<A NAME="ftpgoph">FTP Files By Gophermail</A>
Likewise an HREF like
<A HREF="./index.html#TOC">Table of Contents (Home page)</A>
will take you out of howto1.html and redirect you to
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/index.html in a section with
<A NAME="TOC">Table Of Contents (7 Topics)</A>
The "./" forces the web page to the highest level, which in my case is
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:34:27 +0200
From: Kai Schindelka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just asking something else
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Trider) on 11.05.1999:
> On 5/11/99, at 10:33 AM, Abel Molina wrote:
[...]
> >3-Is it finally possible to put the ASCCII 12 character under win95 in
> >order to use the "More Complicated Servers"?
[...]
> Why not try editing the file using the MS-DOS editor?
Please be so kind as not to quote an entire message for just asking
a counterquestion or answering a single sentence. See "ADMIN: Monthly
Reminder" under "Netiquette" for details. Thank you very much.
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Bye; Kai - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Schindelka)
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:22:35 -0400
From: Ian Trider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MP3s
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 5/12/99, at 11:27 PM, Matthew A Bahls wrote:
>Hey all,
>Thanks for all the help on my last quesion about the ftpmailer at
>princeton. I just tried it again and it worked, so maybe I was doing
>something wrong or something. I'll be sure that if I get that again,
>I'll send all the info to you all.
>
>Now, for my next question. I just got a MP3 player and I want to check
>out some mp3s off of the MP3 page. I have the band's URL that I want and
>I found where you are supposed to download the MP3, but I can't seem to
>download the MP3. Could somebody tell me if it is possible to download
>them by accmail and how to do it? I tried to do it with WWW4Mail, but I
>haven't got anything back yet. Also, is it possible to use Real Audio
>without acutal Internet access?
>
Yes, if it is not a streaming file. If it is specifically meant to stream off the
internet, than no.
>Thanks,
>Matt
>
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:35:13 +0100
From: Melanie Halmarack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fright4U
I recently requested the newest versions of the 4U files from an agora
server.
The Email4U file arrived in a strange state. I was truncated and had a
suspicious looking file attachment called "open elf.stuba.sk". It looks very
much to me like a virus file, though I may just be paranoid. Anyway I have
it cornered until the exorcist arrives.
I tried getting the file from several of the listed sources, but they were
all in the same condition. Damned elves!
Regards,
Melanie
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:39:47 +0300
From: Uzi Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fright4U
> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:35:13 +0100
> From: Melanie Halmarack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I recently requested the newest versions of the 4U files from an agora
> server.
> The Email4U file arrived in a strange state. I was truncated and had a
> suspicious looking file attachment called "open elf.stuba.sk". It looks very
> much to me like a virus file, though I may just be paranoid. Anyway I have
> it cornered until the exorcist arrives.
> I tried getting the file from several of the listed sources, but they were
> all in the same condition. Damned elves!
I cannot say much about what have happened, but it seems that sending an
empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] should give you the file without
problems.
Uzi
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