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Topics of the day:
1. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
2. How to figure out real file name? (2)
3. Interbot service files
4. NEWS: Bellanet's information page
5. Maching domain !
6. turning Usenet into a listserv (2)
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 06:01:48 +0100
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Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:47:05 +0200
From: "Lena [Kiev.Ukraine]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to figure out real file name?
> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:58:34 +0300
> From: "Alexander F. Chernetsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Alexander, :-)
I reply to you on-list and in English because some others also
may be interested.
> For example. TSOURCE HTTP://WWW.DEEP-PURPLE.COM returns to me
> file RPLE_COM.HTM. Though I know exactly that _real_file_name
> is WELCOME.HTM.
More often it is not welcome.htm. w3mail always named sent files
in such situations as welcome.htm (if uuencoded), but real name
usually is different. It depends on web-server's software, and with
some web-servers (it seems for me that <http://www.geocities.com>
among them) default names can vary in different directories, webmasters
select them. For example, if you ask for my homepage specifying
<http://www.halyava.ru/elena/> or <http://elena.stealth.ru>
then the file index.html from my directory will be sent by the
web-server. Ask for <http://www.halyava.ru/elena/index.html> or
<http://elena.stealth.ru/index.html> and you'll receive same file
(only text counter and may be the gratis web-server's advertisement code
will differ). I'm not sure, probably I could name this file index.htm
instead of index.html. How web-server chooses which file to send
if filename wasn't specified in URL, is described in manuals/help-files
for webmasters on exact web-server. For used by me web-server its FAQ
<http://www.halyava.ru/doc/faq.html> explain (in Russian):
| ������: � ����� ���� �� ����� �������� ����� �������, ����
| ������ ������ ��� ����� ��������, http://www.halyava.ru/vasyapupkin?
| �����: ����� ���� ���� ������� index.html. ���������� ���������
| ���� �� ������ � html, ������� ��������� �� ������
| http://werbach.com/barebones/#russian
I translate for other readers:
| Question: Which file from my directory will be shown if only
| name of my directory is specified, http://www.halyava.ru/vasyapupkin?
| Answer: Such file must be named index.html. I recommend to read
| HTML documentation on http://werbach.com/barebones/#russian
> And now the same question: How can I figure out real file name?
Sometimes there is a link with filename somewhere pointing to
this page. If you get same content when you ask without filename
and with some filename, then you can suppose that it's real filename
used by web-server when filename isn't specified. Or sometime
you can find documentation for the web-server's software.
You can guess, try index.html, index.htm, welcome.html, welcome.htm,
default.html, default.htm. But usually you really needn't to know
real filename (see below).
> How do mailserver (and not only it) know what file send to me
> if file name isn't given?
Mailserver doesn't know filename. Mailserver just asks web-server
for given URL, without filename. Web-server chooses exact file.
Same with online browsers.
> I want to build local mirrors of small pieces
> some web-servers.
Then you must comply with conventions of software used by you
for access to your local mirror. If convention of your software
(which default name to use if filename isn't specified) differs from
that of mirrored web-server then you can end with two identical files
with different names in some directories, but it's just small waste
of disk space.
If you don't know conventions of the software you intend to use
then make empty directory, try to access it by the software
not specifying filename, and see filename in the "file not found"
error message.
If your software requires always specify filename then
you can invent your own conventions. Or use real filenames
(if you can determine them - it not always is possible).
If my explanation isn't clear for you then describe how local users
will have access to your local mirror, which software you intend
to use.
Uspehov, :)
Lena
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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:06:05 EDT
From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Interbot service files
Sorry for doing this on the list. :)
Would the knid gentleman from Saudia Arabia with the Hotmail account
please mail me again at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I lost your address (my
email program lost the data). I will send you the files.
Also, anyone who want to exchange Interbot service files mail the above
add. The 'dead line' passed but it isn't a problem.
send comments/questions to me at:
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William Andrews
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:39:11 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEWS: Bellanet's information page
Accmailers.
Bellanet's information page is now available in French and Spanish. I
just received this information.
>Le document < Du web au courriel : comment utiliser le courrier
electronique
>pour naviguer sur le web. > est maintenant disponible en francais!
Envoyez
>la commande http://www.bellanet.org/email-f.htm
>a l'addresse suivante : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Le document vous sera envoye en piece jointe.
>
>Disponible en Espanol!
>"Web-correo electronico: como usar el correo electronico para navegar
porel
>Web."
>Para acceder al documento por correo electronico, debe enviarse un
mensaje a
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>escribiendo en el texto del mensaje: http://www.bellanet.org/email-s.htm
>
>"Web-to-Email: How to use email to surf the Web"
>Contains an updated list of resources and web-to-email servers. To obtain
>this document by e-mail, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>with the request: http://www.bellanet.org/email.htm
>You will receive the document as an HTML attachment by return e-mail.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:46:30 +0500
From: Irfan Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Maching domain !
On 9 May 99, at 16:57, Abel Molina wrote:
> Few months ago I found a server on the net that let me search domain name
> servers wich contains the matching word. ie. I search for domain name
> servers matching the word "ftpsearch" and it returns a list like this:
>
> -- ftpsearch.lycos.com
> -- ftpsearch.ntnu.no
> -- list.ftpsearching.com.ch
> -- (etc)
>
> Does someone know what I�m talking about?
>
> Please tell me just what you know about this and if you know some other
> kind of server (or service) like this please tell me.
>
here is a non-accmail answer (i.e. requires on-line web access):
there is this web page that lets you search domain names. enter the
following in your browser:
http://www.netcraft.com/cgi-bin/Survey/hosts?host=whatever
replace "whatever" with the domain name you wish to search. for
example, to search "ftpsearch" use:
http://www.netcraft.com/cgi-bin/Survey/hosts?host=ftpsearch
[check the recent accmail FAQ on how to access the above page by e-
mail.]
irfan k.
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:46:30 +0500
From: Irfan Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: turning Usenet into a listserv
On 29 Apr 99, at 11:39, The Every Other Weekly wrote:
> There are certain moderated Usenet groups that post hourly/daily/weekly.
> I would like to automatically access these groups and get their most
> recent postings by e-mail-- basically turning certain Usenet groups into a
> personal listserv.
>
> ...
allow me to revisit the above question. there are ISPs who don't
setup NNTP server, and hence don't offer USENET access -- for various
reasons. i understand that there are public-access NNTP servers, and
also websites that give USENET feeds (for example
http://w.deja.com/home_bg.shtml)
may i request accmailers to share if they know of any service (or
tip) that lets one access USENET groups through e-mail, preferably as
a mailing list (listserv, etc.).
irfan k.
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:14:44 +0300
From: AdiM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to figure out real file name?
Alexander F. Chernetsky wrote:
> How do mailserver (and not only it) know what file send to me
> if file name isn't given?
The mailserver will get what the web-server offers. The mail-server receives your
e-mail
command, and connects to the specified web-server to fetch the URL.
Each web-server is configurated to use a default file name for the URLs that end in a
directory name. Usually, the default name is index.html or welcome.html, but this is
the
system administrator's choice.
When you use that kinf of URL in a web-browser and there is no default file in that
directory, you may receive the directory index (like after DIR commands)!
http://hasdeu.bz.edu.ro/~adim
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:29:18 +0300
From: Uzi Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: turning Usenet into a listserv
> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:46:30 +0500
> From: Irfan Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> may i request accmailers to share if they know of any service (or
> tip) that lets one access USENET groups through e-mail, preferably as
> a mailing list (listserv, etc.).
Besides recommending you to read the Usenet Access Guide (send an empty
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order ro
receive the file either in text format or zip compressed and uuencoded),
Anyone who has a direct access to Usenet may use Deja (formerly called
DejaNews) via e-mail.
It is an excellent service for those who prefer receiving Usenet messages
via e-mail and the options are great: either messages from a specific
newsgroup as if it was a mailing list, or messages that fall into search
profiles that you set.
It is a new part of the MyDeja personalized service.
The only problem with this service that should concern Accmailers, is that
the subscription/signoff from the service, and any change in the personal
profile for the service can be done only via WWW with a browser that
support cookies. The searches, however are also kept in Dejanews, and you
can use a browser which does not belong to you in a manner which will not
cause a problem with cookies being set on a computer which is not yours,
cookies will be deleted after you "logout" from your MyDeja account, after
making/changing the settings for the newsgroups/search_profiles via e-mail
The entry point is: http://www.deja.com/mydn.xp
Uzi
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