There are 16 messages totalling 659 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. GRIPE: Missing Subject Lines (2)
2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
3. html forms and uuencode
4. Y2k
5. BITFTP Reply
6. Mail Server (2)
7. Interruption
8. Interesting bookmark for information technology.
9. The Question: Traceroute tool by email-only (2)
10. Email Web Viewer
11. I have a request (2)
12. digest problems
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:25:37 -0500
From: Mike Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GRIPE: Missing Subject Lines
This email address is mostly my "mailing list" address; I receive stuff from
high-volume lists and occasional announcement lists here. Because I have to
do a lot of sifting of "the wheat from the chaff", I may download 100
messages at a time and delete all but 10 before I even start reading.
I have noticed, particularly on this list, PARTICULARLY among those with
non-American names and domains (esp. orientals and arabs, it seems), a great
propensity to leave the subject line blank. When that line is blank, I'm
often at a loss for what to do. Should I delete it with the attitude "if it's
not important enough to put a subject line on, it's not worth my time to read
it", or read it with the attitude "if they don't know enough to include a
subject line, they may be in WORSE need of help"? I tend to do the former;
you may have posted a message that I would be willing to help with, but
deleted it because it didn't have a subject line.
And today in one message download, our own Gerry Boyd left out the subject
line; TWICE! (Bad example, Gerry!)
C'mon folks, if we're going to help each other out, let's at least put in the
subject line what we're discussing.
Thanks for tolerating my rant.
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:01:56 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Tue 18 May 1999, posted Wed, 19 May 1999 05:00:46
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:08:52 +0800
From: DJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: html forms and uuencode
Hey folks I hope this helps with teh filling out html forms via email
thing and a another way to decode uuencode with out other stuff.
To Vlad Vork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
For the html form filling thing, lets say there's a form in this url:
http://soso.com/form.html, just send this plainly as is in the body of
your message to a www4server. Like this:
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subject: (you may leave this blank0
Body of message: the url here (like http://soso.com/form.html)
and you should get the html form back from the server, of the form you
want. Answer this as you normally would like you were online, and thn
click on the submit form. This should prompt you with a warning that
this form is not secure and maybe be seen by other parties or what ever,
just click okay and then the form is sent via email again. This doesn't
show up on your 'sent' folder though. You should get a response from the
www4server back with the reply request of your form. Unfortunately, I've
tired doing this to get a free pop email (i.e. mypad.com and
mailandnews.com, and I can't seem to get thru. Maybe because ww4servers
don't support *.pl files? Anyway also I've tried this for subscribing to
horoscope list and it worked (try http://4yourhoroscope.com and see if
this works not sure about the url now though ...) ! Hope this helps!
To Ibrahim E Abdul-Hafiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
As for the uuencode thing, this is something I discoverd on my own, and
I hope this helps you.
I got that once and I didn't know what to do. I figured this might work
and it did: copy the entire text of the email, starting from the the
part where its all gibberish like this:
begin blah blah_com.html
M/"$M+2!8+5523#H@:'1T<#HO+W=W=RYD;F%I+F-O;2]^:FYA<G9A97HO("TM
upto the end part;
M,3DY-SPO23X\+T(^/"]A/@H\0E(^"CPO0T5.5$52/@H\+T)/1%D^"CPO2%1-
#3#X@
`
end
And put them in notepad or if not some text editor. Save the file as
filename.uue This file will show up in the directory where you saved it
as a zipped file and you can open it from there and it should have the
thing you want in there in its original file type: exe, html, ps etc.
...
Hope this helps!! Oh and Gerry thanks for that link - I'll just go get a
www4server to fetch it for me, as of typing this email, I haven't
checked out that url! =) But thanks in advance!
-dj
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:16:13 +0100
From: Netmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Y2k
Some thoughts on the Millennium Bug
an article by Gerald E Boyd
based on his recent two mailings to this list
is now available at
http://members.tripod.co.uk/netmiser/y2k.htm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:42:15 +0700
From: Nguyen Duc Hoan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BITFTP Reply
I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as:
FTP 203.162.7.146
cd Software/TOOLS/Antivirus/BKAV
get BKAV252.EXE
I've received its reply as forwarded. Could you please help me did I make
any mistake or the reason that I was not success. Thanks in advance.
---------------------- Forwarded by Nguyen Duc Hoan/VN/FNCC on 05/19/99
02:29 PM ---------------------------
Princeton BITNET FTP Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/19/99
02:00:49 PM
To: Nguyen Duc Hoan/VN/FNCC
cc:
Subject: BITFTP Reply
************************************************************************
* By default, uuencoded and xxencoded files are broken up into mail *
* files that contain no more than 1000 records (containing 62 bytes *
* each). You can specify a different "chunk size" in units of 1024 *
* bytes by including a "CHUNKSIZE" command after your "FTP" command. *
* For example, "CHUNKSIZE 100" specifies that files be broken up into *
* 100K-byte pieces. "CHUNKSIZE 0" specifies that files not be broken *
* up at all. Regardless of your CHUNKSIZE specifications, BITFTP will *
* not break a single file up into more than 100 pieces, nor will it *
* send out chunks larger than 70000 records. *
************************************************************************
> FTP 203.162.7.146
>> OPEN 203.162.7.146
<<< Connecting to 203.162.7.146, port 21
<<< 220 isp-www Microsoft FTP Service (Version 4.0).
>> USER anonymous
>>> USER anonymous
<<< 331 Anonymous access allowed, send identity (e-mail name) as password.
<<< Password:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> PASS ********
<<< 230-Welcome to FPT Internet Service Provider
<<< 230 Anonymous user logged in.
> cd Software/TOOLS/Antivirus/BKAV
>> CD Software/TOOLS/Antivirus/BKAV
>>> CWD Software/TOOLS/Antivirus/BKAV
<<< 250 CWD command successful.
> get BKAV252.EXE
>>>> Transfer mode forced to BINARY.
>> GET BKAV252.EXE BKAV252.EXE.D ( REPLACE
>>> PORT 128,112,129,99,85,187
<<< 200 PORT command successful.
>>> RETR BKAV252.EXE
<<< 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for BKAV252.EXE(72768 bytes).
<<< In UntilOpen: Passive Open for Fd 2 Timeout
<<< *** No data transferred
<<< 426 Connection closed; transfer aborted.
>> CLOSE
>>> QUIT
<<< 226 ABOR command successful.
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:20:22 +0300
From: MS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mail Server
Hello!
Despite my complaints to the server administrator, some times receiving
of mails seems erratic. Looking for some advise on the following :
1. If the mail server is down, does the mail get bounced back to the
sender? Do the sender's server try again. If so how long?
2. In case of over load or traffic on the net, do the mails get delayed.
Is there a possibility of the mails getting lost also?
3. Is there a sort of filter mechanism at the server holding some mails
giving priority or cancelling certain mails etc.
Thanks
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:25:32 +0300
From: MS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Interruption
Hi!
I am subscribed with my address as <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Last 1 week I ahve not been getting the mails from your list. Kindly
arrange to send regularly.
Thanks & Regards
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:25:45 -0000
From: Dogberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Interesting bookmark for information technology.
Dear listers:
Please let me share with you this VERY interesting page with
articles on information technology published in Scientific
American, Nature and others.
http://www.swin.edu.au/tafe/aged/itissues/science/science1.html
I don't know exactly how I came across this, but I believe is was
while looking for online+scientific+magazines in Metacrawler.
Don't miss it!
Dogberry
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:36:42 -0000
From: Dogberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The Question: Traceroute tool by email-only
Dear listers:
Please read de following excerpt
>From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>...
>Run traceroute and ping from your site to polbox.com to find
>bottlenecks and traffic jams on the Internet.
>
>Here is an example traceroute from Netcom to polbox.com
>
>gboyd>traceroute polbox.com
>traceroute to polbox.com (212.244.200.10), 30hops max, 40byte packets
>1 192.100.81.254 (192.100.81.254) 5 ms 11 ms 2 ms
>2 sjx-ca-gw1.netcom.net (163.179.1.29) 4 ms 1 ms 1 ms
>3 h0-0.mae-west.netcom.net (163.179.233.214) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms
>...
Now: Is it possible to perform a sort of TRACEROUTE between to
email addresses by email-only methods?
Thanks in advance.
Dogberry
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:19:05 +0530
From: "Fabian Brian. Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Email Web Viewer
Hi Accmailers!
Does anyone remember the "Email Web Viewer" By "Stuart
Clarke"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ?
Well I never got round to making it work for me because I'm behind a
corporate firewall, but it's Great!!! Stuart must've improved upon it by
now.
With this software we can browse the Internet by email. The browser
sends an email request for a web page and we can then view the page
offline.This could be great for people having email access only.
It requires Netscape Navigator and uses it to display the web page
requested by email. (I think it's something we now do using the www4
servers, request link by link and then view them)
--------------------------- ** B E G I N ** Excerpts from the README
file---------------------------
Distribution
------------
Feel free to copy this FREEWARE program and give it to
all you friends. You can get the latest version by
Emailing me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with
'SEND EWV.ZIP' in the subject line. Note it can take up
to 2 weeks for delivery.
--------------------------- ** E N D ** Excerpts from the README
file---------------------------
Maybe some of you guys may know about this but I haven't heard of
anythig since that time when this software was mentioned...probably
somewhere in August 1997. Therefore I was just wondering how come no one
has been talking about this or have they been?
Actually these files were hidden in an old backup of my HDD and I just
stumbled upon them.
I was so happy that I decided to tell you all!!!
Hope this is useful to you,
Warm Regards,
--
Fabian
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:54:55 +0700
From: Le Ngoc Huy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I have a request
Hello,
I want to say "hello" to all member of ACCMAIL list. I am a new comer. I
have a question for al of you. Please reply soon if you know.
I have just received a application that have extension is MPP (*.mpp) and
now I want to know which software that can use this app is? How can I get
that software?
Thanks for your soon reply.
Regards,
HUY.
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:59:25 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: digest problems
At 07:22 AM 5/18/99 +0300, MS wrote the following:
Cross-posted to Help-Net and Accmail
>I am subscribed with my address as <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Last 1 week I have not been getting "help-net digest"
>
>Kindly arrange to send regularly.
Being as you sent this same note to two mailings lists, I'd bet the
problem is on your end.
First off a couple of points to be mentioned...
1) Always include a subject in your postings. It helps the members to
decide whether or not the posting should be read. Many members just
delete postings without subject lines.
2) If you are having problems with a mailing list you should send the
comments to the list owner, NOT the mailing list. Most members of the
list consider these messages to be off topic and a waste of time and
resources.
3) You should always check your own subscription to make sure you were
not automatically deleted from the list due to bounces from your
mailing address. To check your subscription and options send E-mail
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [leave blank]
Body of message:
QUERY HELP-NET
or
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [leave blank]
Body of message:
QUERY ACCMAIL
4) It is NOT up to the list owner to make sure you receive mail. It is
up to you. Subscriptions to the list, digest compilation, archiving,
and signoff requests are all handled automatically by the listserv
software. Unless there is a failure somewhere with listserv, then most
mailing problems are due to the subscribers address, ISP, or mail
server problems.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:15:00 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GRIPE: Missing Subject Lines
At 05:25 PM 5/18/99 -0500, Mike Webb wrote the following:
>And today in one message download, our own Gerry Boyd left out the
subject
>line; TWICE! (Bad example, Gerry!)
11 no subjects in 1263 archived postings isn't that bad is it?
You are 0 for 31...
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:51:09 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail Server
At 08:20 PM 5/18/99 +0300, MS wrote the following:
>Despite my complaints to the server administrator, some times receiving
>of mails seems erratic. Looking for some advise on the following :
>
>1. If the mail server is down, does the mail get bounced back to the
>sender? Do the sender's server try again. If so how long?
First part the answer is yes. The sender receives a bounce message:
Here are some example bounces:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to disjoint.news.demon.net.:
<<< 554 SMTP service not available
... while talking to seth.news.demon.net.:
>>> QUIT
<<< 554 SMTP service not available
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Deferred: Connection reset by
seth.news.demon.net.
Warning: message still undelivered after 12 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
So you can see from this bounce that the sender will try again and
again until 5 days are up at which time the sender will quit.
Some bounces are self explanatory
550 <...>... User unknown
550 <...>... Host unknown
451 <...>... Name server timeout
550 <...>... Mailbox disabled for software upgrade reasons
550 <...>... Mailbox full
In the above types of bounces, the sender doesn't try to send the mail
again.
>2. In case of over load or traffic on the net, do the mails get delayed.
>Is there a possibility of the mails getting lost also?
Delays yes, losses very very very rarely...
>3. Is there a sort of filter mechanism at the server holding some mails
>giving priority or cancelling certain mails etc.
The sender's ISP can give higher priority to mail sent by
administrators over regular users. That is, Netcom could give a higher
priority to mail sent by a system administrator over mail sent by me.
However, this is not normally the case.
Mail is normally only cancelled when the administrator notices a system
hang due to a piece of mail, or if the mail server is having problems.
Another case of automatic mail cancellation occurs with the new "spam"
prevention methods that most ISPs have installed. You can see this when
you receive a bounced mail that says something like "we do not relay"
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:37:09 +0200
From: Frank Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I have a request
Hello Huy,
MPP is either a Microsoft Project file or a CAD drawing file format.
A list of file formats can be found at http://www.whatis.com/ff.htm
Greetings from Germany
Frank
____________________________________________
Dipl.-Ing.(FH) Frank Wagner
Project Manager / EMail Consultant
Merck KGaA, Darmstadt, Germany
Phone ++49 6151 72 4397 Fax ++49 6151 72 90397
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /G=frank/S=wagner/P=merck/A=dbp/C=de
___________________________________________________________
-----Original Message-----
From: Le Ngoc Huy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 3:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I have a request
Hello,
I want to say "hello" to all member of ACCMAIL list. I am a new comer. I
have a question for al of you. Please reply soon if you know.
I have just received a application that have extension is MPP (*.mpp) and
now I want to know which software that can use this app is? How can I get
that software?
Thanks for your soon reply.
Regards,
HUY.
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:36:51 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Question: Traceroute tool by email-only
At 06:36 AM 5/19/99 -0000, Dogberry wrote the following:
>Now: Is it possible to perform a sort of TRACEROUTE between to
>email addresses by email-only methods?
Out of all the traceroute locations I know of, you can only trace from
the host location to your site or another site. I don't know ofy any
traceroute servers that allow you to enter two separate locations and
trace between them.
The only one that I know of that comes close, is the Multiple
Traceroute site. You can enter any IP address or domain name but must
selct from a list of sites for the other end of the trace.
The web page is here:
http://www.tracert.com/cgi-bin/trace.pl
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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