There are 16 messages totalling 779 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. On the Stats issue (was Re: Problems with ACCMail digest)
2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
3. SMTP - is in the world some free servers ?
4. WWW site mirroring via E-mail
5. Uploading (2)
6. not problems only (2)
7. ACCMAIL subscribers and countries (4)
8. Virus Warning or "spam" Hoax?? (2)
9. NEWS: New Linux site
10. GULLIBILITY VIRUS - READ THIS NOW!!!
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:16:57 +0600
From: K Sethu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: On the Stats issue (was Re: Problems with ACCMail digest)
At 10:24:46 -0700, Tue, 18 May 1999, Gerald E. Boyd wrote :
>At 08:49 AM 5/18/99 +0530, Sriram N. A. wrote the following:
>
>>Once again, how about lopping off nearly 2KB by doing away with those
>daily
>>stats?
>>
>>I really cannot fathom why subscribers would be averse to signing up
>for the
>>stats mailing list and receiving the information in a separate mail...
>>
>>Sounds to me like a fit case for the moderator to take a decision by
>fiat.
>
>We already discussed this on the list. The majority of members wished
>the daily stats to be continued. Until such time as the majority
>decides they are no longer need I will continue posting them. In
>addition, I like them (:>)
>
Yes, 5 months back, when I had just joined this list and was just lurking,
that was the discussion which seemed recurring over a few days.
Most of the majority who wished the stats to be continued had then
expressed that, the stats as important resource and it would be convenient to
get them with the rest of the postings of this list etc.
As a newbie wishing to try out things which raise curiosity, I had then
subscribed to get the stats daily using the following tip which
appears daily in the stats :
><
Want this list every day? Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the
body of your message put "join statistics" (no quotes)
><
After starting to get the stats daily, I noticed a point on the time gap
between
posting of our ACCMAIL digest and the posting of stats - I found that
daily the direct posting from netserves.com was always the latest. To put
it another way, the stats that I would get in our digest on a day would be the
one which I would have got already previous day direct from netserves.com.
The time gap is due to the fact that a day's ACCMAIL digest gets posted
approximately 5 minutes after midnight local time of US Eastern Time zone,
for which, time zone is -05:00 in Standard and -04:00 in Daylight Saving.
The stats from netserves.com gets posted at 06:00 local time of London
for which time zone is 0:00 (GMT) in Standard and +01:00 in Daylight saving.
Translating the posting times to same time zone, we see that daily,
the stats gets posted nearly 01 hour AFTER an ACCMAIL digest gets
posted.
So everyday ACCMAIL digest brings a stats posting which is
already approx. 23 hours old since it was put out! Even if one is getting
ACCMAIL
postings in non digest way, ie., postings coming individually after moderator
approves, the stats coming with it, cannot possibly reach one faster than ,
coming directly from netserves.com , can it?
If stats are so useful to those who find it so, shoud they not make use of
the latest available rather than an already older one ?
However...
I am NEUTRAL on the question of removing the stats from the list (if
the polling is still open, that is !)
K. Sethu
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:01:52 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Wed 19 May 1999, posted Thu, 20 May 1999 05:00:40
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Note: [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't reply to .net or .com addresses.
This data is generated automatically around 0600 GMT/BST most
days. The performance reported is dependant on many factors and your
experience may vary. You can also access this list:
On the Web at http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/stats.htm
By FTP at ftp://ftp.cix.co.uk/pub/net-services/stats.txt
Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and say
"get file stats.txt" (no quotes)
Want this list every day? Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the
body of your message put "join statistics" (no quotes)
No liability is accepted for inaccuracies. Mirroring, links to and
copying of this entire file (not extracts) is permitted until further
notice.
Slow downloads? Try Mr. Cool!
See http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/
Copyright Net Services 1999.
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:02:57 +0400
From: coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMTP - is in the world some free servers ?
Hello All !
I have trouble with my SMTP.
Can u give to me some addresses of free SMTP-servers.
Many, many thanx to ALL.
2- If somebody want to get or mail by Telnet Ask me, Now i get good
article about it.
\\\\ CoFFin. 20.05.99
< */* >
ooo - ooo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:11:52 -0700
From: Andrei Boros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WWW site mirroring via E-mail
Is there any E-mail robot that will make a site mirror just like
programs like Teleport Pro, and send you a browsable copy of it in an
archive (let's say a ZIP) encoded and splitted as necessary?
All ofcourse within reasonable limits.
Thank you.
--
Andrix
E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web : http://members.tripod.com/andrei_b
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:06:48 +0900
From: Awal Wahjudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Uploading
Accmailers,
Is it possible to upload some file to web server by email ?
Since I have email access only.
TIA
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:59:24 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uploading
At 07:06 PM 5/20/99 +0900, Awal Wahjudi wrote the following:
>Is it possible to upload some file to web server by email ?
>Since I have email access only.
I mentioned this on this list within the last week. The InternetTrash
site allows you to do this, so does(did) the AngelFire site.
The old work SunZoomSpark did at the AngelFire site is located on their
InternetTrash site. You can get this old work (probably out of date) at:
http://internettrash.com/users/sunzoomspark/afire.htm
The message to the list is in the archive:
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [leave blank]
Body of message
GETPOST ACCMAIL 5533
This message was sent to Accmail on Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:15:09 -0000
from SunZoomSpark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Free web sites by email - new service from internettrash.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is all you have to do ...
1. Send an email
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New User
(message body below)
Password: <your password>
2. Reply to the confirmation message which will
appear in a few seconds.
3. Send an email
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (anything)
(message body below)
Password: <your password>
Alias: <your alias>
(attach a file which you want to send)
For example, we sent the following email message
with a file named 'index.htm' as an attachment
Password: qwertyuiop
Alias: sunzoomspark
Ten seconds later, we had our new web site
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
aka
http://internettrash.com/users/sunzoomspark/
aka
http://205.216.248.174/users/sunzoomspark/
We prefer the IP address version!
----------------------------------------------
I just checked and their web page is still there...
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:27:36 +0000
From: Ordog Istvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: not problems only
Dear Accmailers!
I have got the following message:
You have requested 0 documents
in the past 14 days, so you have reached
your quota for this period. You cannot
request any more for 15 days.
Sorry for the annoyance,
Automatically yours,
The DMU Engineering Agora Team, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it a funny automatic, is n't?
Regars I.Ordog from Hungary
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:44:30 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: not problems only
At 04:27 PM 5/20/99 +0000, Ordog Istvan wrote the following:
>I have got the following message:
>
>You have requested 0 documents
>in the past 14 days, so you have reached
>your quota for this period. You cannot
>request any more for 15 days.
>
>Sorry for the annoyance,
>
>Automatically yours,
>
>
>The DMU Engineering Agora Team, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Is it a funny automatic, is n't?
For the 4th time:
I reported that this agora was now a local server only to the ACCMAIL
list on 28Apr99
I also updated my servers listing on the same day.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.html
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:15:14 -0700
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ACCMAIL subscribers and countries
>From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: NEWS: ACCMAIL subscribers and countries
>
>Accmailers,
>
>Latest list of countries and subscribers as
>of Tue, 4 May 1999 14:24:39 -0400
>
>* Country Subscribers
>* ------- -----------
>* Argentina 46
>* Armenia 1
>* Australia 22
....
Wouldn't be very interesting to receive this report more oftenly?
Is it automatized or hand-made?
A final question:
The report also says
>* USA 1,207
Is it the real country of this AccMailers, or 1207 just stems
from *.com, *.net, *.edu, *.org, etc, email addresses?
I mean, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] should be placed in Germany, India and The
United Kingdom respectively. Isn't it?
Regards,
Dogberry
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:17:21 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACCMAIL subscribers and countries
At 12:15 PM 5/20/99 -0700, Anonymous wrote the following:
>Wouldn't be very interesting to receive this report more oftenly?
>Is it automatized or hand-made?
It's from the review command. The list review command is suppressed and
only I can see it. However, I don't know what happens with the country
option. Try it and see if it works.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [leave blank]
Body of message:
review accmail (by country short
>A final question:
>
>The report also says
>
>>* USA 1,207
>
>Is it the real country of this AccMailers, or 1207 just stems
>from *.com, *.net, *.edu, *.org, etc, email addresses?
The country option on the review command says this is the List Owner's
Manual:
by country of origin (ISO country codes)
Now if we look at the ISO country codes listing we find a couple of notes:
V. .edu, .com, etc.
The domains in this section are special in that some of them are
used in more than one country. The domains which have full internet
access are marked accordingly.
See Note [5] for the next top level domains (rs.internic.net):
COM Commercial
EDU Educational
GOV Government
INT International field
MIL US Military
NET Network
ORG Non-Profit Organization
The ISO country code listing is available by E-mail from rtfm.mit.edu by
sending an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , blank subject line
and the command: send usenet/news.answers/mail/country-codes
>I mean, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] should be placed in Germany, India and The
>United Kingdom respectively. Isn't it?
I don't really know (:<)
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:16:45 +0200
From: "Johannes M. Posel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACCMAIL subscribers and countries
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Hi Nobody,
Relocated 12:15 20.05.99 -0700. What Anonymous had to say is as follows:
>>* USA 1,207
.us domains :)= They really exist!
>Regards,
>Dogberry
C'ya!
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~ Johannes Posel ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
~ Homepage @ http://posel.home.pages.de ~
~ Reality always seems harsher in the early morning ~
~ Made in W-Germany, content includes 100 percent electrons ~
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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:16:25 +0300
From: Uzi Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACCMAIL subscribers and countries
> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:15:14 -0700
> From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Should I say "that on May 20, nobody wrote:"?)
> The report also says
>
> >* USA 1,207
>
> Is it the real country of this AccMailers, or 1207 just stems
> from *.com, *.net, *.edu, *.org, etc, email addresses?
>
> I mean, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be placed in Germany, India and The
> United Kingdom respectively. Isn't it?
As I wrote earlier, it is a bug in LISTSERV.
LISTSERV counts the .us +all three character extensions as USA
subscribers, which is of-course incorrect.
I checked it with my list (Help-Net) which runs by version 1.8c of
Listserv, and it does count .edu .com .org and .net as USA only.
Accmail runs by version 1.8d , but .us domains (and .gov and .mil) are not
too common. So I have no doubts that they didn't fix this problem on 1.8d.
Uzi
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:57:57 -0400
From: Vicente Alba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Virus Warning or "spam" Hoax??
Hello, Gerry!
Hello everybody!
Just today we received from a friend in Belgium a warning against a new
virus.
Apparently the virus comes in a message with the subject: "Penpal
Greetings".
It infests your hard disk erasing all data in the boot sector. It is also
self replicating and automatically sends itself to all the e-mail addresses
in your address book and even to e-mail addresses in your inbox.
The funny thing is, the warning encourages you to repeat this warning to
everyone you know, thus creating a spam-like situation.
Does anyone have any serious confirmation about this virus, or is it the
usual hoax?
Thanks for reading.
Best regards,
Jos� Llufr�o
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:17:59 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Virus Warning or "spam" Hoax??
At 02:57 PM 5/20/99 -0400, Vicente Alba wrote the following:
>Just today we received from a friend in Belgium a warning against a new
>virus.
>
>Apparently the virus comes in a message with the subject: "Penpal
>Greetings".
[...]
Old hoax...
Rule of thumb:
In virtually every case, email warnings and alerts which contain a
sentence like "You must pass this on to everyone you know!" are hoaxes.
Further reasons to be suspicious: the message is unsigned; it offers no
references to back up its claims, and there is no way for recipients to
authenticate the information.
Help are some references to aide you:
April Fools on the Net (Archive of Net Humor):
http://www.2meta.com/april-fools/
Chain Letters:
http://athos.rutgers.edu/~watrous/chain-letters.html
CIAC Internet Hoaxes:
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
CIAC Internet Chain Letters
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html
Computer Virus Myths:
http://kumite.com/myths/
http://sassman.net/virus/
Don't Spread That Hoax:
http://www.nonprofit.net/hoax/hoax.html
EFF Hoaxes Archive:
http://www.eff.org/pub/Net_culture/Folklore/Hoaxes/
Hoax Kill
http://www.hoaxkill.com/
To find out if the message you received is genuine, please look at
our hoaxes list. If
you can't find your message in this list, you can send it to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
We will then try to verify the contents of the message.
National Fraud Information Center:
http://www.fraud.org./
Urban Legends
http://www.urbanlegends.com/
Virus Related Spoofs
http://www.chekware.simplenet.com/spoofs.htm
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:30:39 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEWS: New Linux site
Cross-posted to Accmail and Help-Net
The new Linux only website http://www.linux.com/ went online today.
The site is from computer maker VA Linux Systems and discusses
information about Linux.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:37:38 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GULLIBILITY VIRUS - READ THIS NOW!!!
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WARNING, CAUTION, DANGER, AND BEWARE!
Gullibility Virus Spreading over the Internet!
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WASHINGTON, D.C.--The Institute for the Investigation of Irregular
Internet Phenomena announced today that many Internet users are
becoming infected by a new virus that causes them to believe
without question every groundless story, legend, and dire warning
that shows up in their Inbox or on their browser. The Gullibility
Virus, as it is called, apparently makes people believe and forward
copies of silly hoaxes relating to cookie recipes, E-Mail viruses,
taxes on modems, and get-rich-quick schemes [perhaps conspiracy
theories should be included here].
"These are not just readers of tabloids or people who buy lottery
tickets based on fortune cookie numbers," a spokesman said. "Most
are otherwise normal people, who would laugh at the same stories if
told to them by a stranger on a street corner." However, once
these same people become infected with the Gullibility Virus, they
believe anything they read on the Internet.
"My immunity to tall tales and bizarre claims is all gone,"
reported one weeping victim. "I believe every warning message and
sick child story my friends forward to me, even though most of the
messages are anonymous."
Another victim, now in remission, added, "When I first heard about
'Good Times,' I just accepted it without question. After all,
there were dozens of other recipients on the mail header, so I
thought the virus must be true." It was a long time, the victim
said, before she could stand up at a Hoaxees Anonymous meeting and
state, "My name is Jane, and I've been hoaxed." Now, however, she
is spreading the word. "Challenge and check whatever you read," she
says.
Internet users are urged to examine themselves for symptoms of the
virus, which include the following:
* the willingness to believe improbable stories without thinking
* the urge to forward multiple copies of such stories to others
* a lack of desire to take three minutes to check to see if a
story is true
T. C. is an example of someone recently infected. He told one
reporter, "I read on the Net that the major ingredient in almost
all shampoos makes your hair fall out, so I've stopped using
shampoo." When told about the Gullibility Virus, T . C. said he
would stop reading e-mail, so that he would not become infected.
Anyone with symptoms like these is urged to seek help immediately.
Experts recommend that at the first feelings of gullibility,
Internet users rush to their favorite search engine and look up the
item tempting them to thoughtless credence. Most hoaxes, legends,
and tall tales have been widely discussed and exposed by the
Internet community.
Courses in critical thinking are also widely available, and there
is online help from many sources, including
* Rob Rosenberger's "Reality Check on viruses"
at http://www.kumite.com/myths
* Department of Energy Computer Incident Advisory Capability at
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
* The Urban Legends Web Site at http://www.urbanlegends.com
* The Stiller Research virus hoax page
at: http://www.stiller.com\hoaxes.htm
Those people who are still symptom free can help inoculate themselves
against the Gullibility Virus by reading some good material on
evaluating
sources, such as
* Evaluating Internet Research Sources at
http://www.sccu.edu/faculty/R_Harris/evalu8it.htm
* Evaluation of Information Sources at
http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~agsmith/evaln/evaln.htm
* Bibliography on Evaluating Internet Resources at
http://refserver.lib.vt.edu/libinst/critTHINK.HTM
Lastly, as a public service, Internet users can help stamp out the
Gullibility Virus by sending copies of this message to anyone who
forwards them a hoax.
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Forward this message to all your friends right away! Don't think
about it! This is not a chain letter! This story is true! Don't
check it out! This story is so timely, there is no date on it!
This story is so important, we're using lots of exclamation
points!!! For every message you forward to some unsuspecting
person, the Home for the Hopelessly Gullible will donate ten cents
to itself. (If you wonder how the Home will know you are forwarding
these messages all over creation, you're obviously thinking too
much.)
*******************************************************************
BTW, I hope you enjoy this is as much as I do. Even though this is very
old, I thought it might be time to post it again (:>)
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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End of ACCMAIL Digest - 19 May 1999 to 20 May 1999 (#1999-141)
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