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  1. ACCMAIL Digest - 29 Jun 1999 to 30 Jun 1999 (#1999-182)
  2. hmm... (2)
  3. .pdf files by www4mail
  4. Q: Deja search code sequence? (4)
  5. Accessing more than neurons of personal memory
  6. POPping and forwarding web-based email
  7. Question for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2)
  8. problem with internet mail (2)
  9. WWW4-mail problem (2)
 10. Help me using Gophermail to download www file
 11. vote on inclusion of stats

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Date:    Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:39:13 -0400
From:    mike fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 29 Jun 1999 to 30 Jun 1999 (#1999-182)

oh no!!!!!!!!
did y'all cut the wwwmail stats from the list?
just when i needed them
puleeease put em back
(or the way to get em)
i didn think they were such a bother...
amor de la habana
mike

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Date:    Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:20:46 -0400
From:    mike fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hmm...

i'm getting this back every time i try to request from my favorite
free webmail server. why?

Subject:
Returned mail: User unknown
Date:
Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:49:59 -0400
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


The original message was received at Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:49:58 -0400
from [169.158.160.162]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to mail.sld.cu.:
>>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<<< 550 Mail from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited from your location
(UNKNOWN@UNKNOWN ip=196.1.112.18)
550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
>>> RSET
<<< 421 Service not available, closing transmission channel

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Date:    Wed, 30 Jun 1999 05:37:54 +0500
From:    "Dr. S K Choudhary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: .pdf files by www4mail

I sent for a .pdf file using www4mail with the TSOURCE command. The .pdf
file was large and came in three parts, each part was an attachment to a
separate email. When I tried to view using Adobe Acrobat, each part gave
the error "file corrupt"  ( since each part was incomplete  ).

How can I get the whole intact file as an attachement to one email only ?

This has happened several times when I have tried to get research papers,
so I need a solution.

I'd like to add here that I have learnt so much since I've joined the list
a couple of months ago. And once I myself have learned enough, I'd be very
pleased to help other list members out also. Thanks.

Sulochona

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:07:58 +0100
From:    Melanie Halmarack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: Deja search code sequence?

I recently read G. Boyd's "wsdeja.faq" document. I tried a simple search and it
worked fine.
Please can anyone tell me if the extra fields that go to make up a more refined
search, such as "author", "subject" and "date", can be added to the simple search
string in any order, or whether they have to follow a set sequence?

I was going to try a few random variations, then I saw that in parts of the "Dogpile"
search procedure some of the search code fields are re-arranged in a particular way,
so I wondered if it might be the same for Deja.

TIA

Melanie
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:53:22 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Accessing more than neurons of personal memory

At 02:22 PM 7/1/99 +0600, Wendell W. Solomons wrote the following:

>I have before me two sheets of hard copy. I had been making
>reference in writings to an important article in the Economist
>and a library sent me the 1977 text.

The Economist Online
http://www.economist.com/ -- [frames required]

A year�s subscription to The Economist in print
costs �84 in Britain and $125 in the United
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Print and Web Edition subscriptions include
free unlimited retrievals from our archive.


--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:27:00 +0530
From:    "Sriram N. A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: POPping and forwarding web-based email

Questions keep appearing on the list on accessing web-based email, so I
thought the following might be useful.

1.  Hotmail now supports what Microsoft is pleased to call the "HTTP Mail"
protocol, which enables functionality somewhat similar to IMAP using the
Hotmail service.  One can manage messages and folders offline, and then
synchronize with the mail server.  This substantially reduces the time spent
online to use web-based email.

The new Outlook Express 5 MUA (free with Internet Explorer 5) has built-in
support for HTTP Mail.  Right now, AFAIK, there are no other servers or
programs which can work with the HTTP Mail protocol, but I expect a slew of
web sites and programs to jump on the bandwagon following Microsoft's very
successful experiment.  IMHO, OE5 is a very good program for internet mail
and news, though I have some complaints about it vis-a-vis OE4.

2.  Yahoo!, the other popular email service and web portal, provides a
couple of free features which usually cost $$: free POP3 access and
forwarding for your web mail!  This has been something of an open secret -
but here's how it works:

The user signs up for the "Yahoo! Delivers" option to receive certain
targeted UCE.  Once signed up, options to either forward Yahoo! mail or
enable POP3 access can be enabled.  Cool!

A point to note: While one can download Yahoo! mail, SMTP services are *not*
provided (unlike Hotmail) and the user will need to have some other SMTP
server to send messages, or log on to the web site.

--
Sriram N. A.

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:54:42 +0800
From:    "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello everybody!
I just send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for request a help file.
Then I recived it. But when I try to get a URL it did
not reply anything. I try much times but it did not work
yet. I promise I use the right command. What is wrong with it?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 07:01:09 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hmm...

At 10:20 PM 9/30/99 -0400, mike fuller wrote the following:

>i'm getting this back every time i try to request from my favorite
>free webmail server. why?


>   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>... while talking to mail.sld.cu.:
>>>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
><<< 550 Mail from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited from your location
>(UNKNOWN@UNKNOWN ip=196.1.112.18)

gboyd>nslookup 196.1.112.18
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

*** localhost can't find 196.1.112.18: Server failed

gboyd>nslookup 196.1.112
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

*** localhost can't find 196.1.112: Non-existent host/domain

gboyd>whois 196.1.112
No match for "196.1.112".

gboyd>whois sld.cu
No match for "SLD.CU".

gboyd>nslookup sld.cu
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Name:    sld.cu

gboyd>nslookup -q=soa sld.cu
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Non-authoritative answer:
sld.cu
        origin = infonew.sld.cu
        mail addr = root.infonew.sld.cu
        serial = 99062101
        refresh = 10800 (3 hours)
        retry   = 3600 (1 hour)
        expire  = 604800 (7 days)
        minimum ttl = 21600 (6 hours)

Authoritative answers can be found from:
sld.cu  nameserver = ns1.igc.apc.org
sld.cu  nameserver = ns.ceniai.net.cu
sld.cu  nameserver = infonew.sld.cu
sld.cu  nameserver = INFOMED.sld.cu
ns1.igc.apc.org internet address = 192.82.108.38
ns.ceniai.net.cu        internet address = 169.158.128.136
infonew.sld.cu  internet address = 196.1.112.25
INFOMED.sld.cu  internet address = 196.1.112.18

Seems to be a problem with DNS (whois and nslookup). The site is
reachable but not without difficulty. You might contact your ISP and
show them this.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:06:35 +0100
From:    Melanie Halmarack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: Deja search code sequence?

Just thought I'd better add that I understand that various context fields can be used
for the search by following the "?QRY=" with, for instance,
%7Ea+melanie@goose-island.*

But what if several contexts need to be combined in one search, say "author", "date"
and "subject"? Can these all be strung together in one group following the "?QRY=",
or do they have to be entered separately after the appropriate field label like:
"&subjects=genetic*&groups=nutrition" as it's structured in a Power Search query?

TIA

Melanie
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:17:30 -0700
From:    "Lic. Noelio Garcia Bornot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with internet mail

 Hi mailers!
 People here are interested in using Intenet Mail as a default mail trasnport, (seeing 
that it is faster) compared to Exchange. However, When installing Internet mails it 
prompts you for the place wher you desire to store your personal forlder. When you 
"tell" it you want your messages kept in a personal folder your system adm. has 
created for you in a 24 hrs service Server It doesn�t accept it. What�s the matter in 
this case?

 In Cuba we only know about Internet Mail, Pine, MsExchange. Is there any other better 
than these one, especially one with full filtering capabilities?

Thanks in advance!
 bob

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 07:47:36 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: Deja search code sequence?

At 01:07 PM 7/2/99 +0100, Melanie Halmarack wrote the following:

>I recently read G. Boyd's "wsdeja.faq" document. I tried a simple
search and it
>worked fine.
>Please can anyone tell me if the extra fields that go to make up a
more refined
>search, such as "author", "subject" and "date", can be added to the
simple search
>string in any order, or whether they have to follow a set sequence?
>
>I was going to try a few random variations, then I saw that in parts
of the "Dogpile"
>search procedure some of the search code fields are re-arranged in a
particular way,
>so I wondered if it might be the same for Deja.

At Deja, everything goes in the ?QRY= field

So an author search on me would be ~a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
?[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To be honest, many of the search engines can have the strings
rearranged and still work properly.

I just retrieved the web page and noticed that they did rearrange the
order. I guess, I have to update the faq again <sigh>


--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 08:36:39 -0400
From:    Francisco Chavez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WWW4-mail problem

Hi All,
I've a problem with WWW4-mail when downloading some web pages specifically
the abstract of some Bio-journals (for example
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/96/13/7137). Few months ago I
started to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this purpose and successfully view the
complete abstract of the article but as bnl.gov expired I started to receive
again the truncated web pages when using WWW4-mail (I checked the source of
the document and is certainly imcomplete). What is happening?
Thanks in advance,

Francisco

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:40:35 -0300
From:    GB&A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with internet mail

At 02/07/1999 10:17:00, you wrote:
> In Cuba we only know about Internet Mail, Pine, MsExchange. Is there any other 
>better than these one,
>especially one with full filtering capabilities?

Yes,  there are a lot of very good mail programs (Pegasus, FoxMail, Eudora, etc.)

I use FoxMail, but also I like Pegasus.  Both are freeware, have good filtereng, good 
folders, are very fast.
They work very well in any PC (386/486/etc, from 4Mb of ram)
Their zip files are little.

to get Fox Mail, locate the file  fm21eg.zip  (520K)
to get Pegasus, locate the file pegasus.exe  1778K)
        (use archie servers to locate the files and ftpmail to download it)

I recomend you to try firs with Fox Mail.
To compare Fox with Exchange, think about a little supersonic Jet Plane comared with 
an slow DC3 plane.
Fox load very quickly, it can automate the phone conection, has remote mail check, has 
address book, etc, etc.
With Fox you also can import your old message files from Exchange, Outlock, Internet 
mail, txt, etc

Try Fox !!

M. Garc�a
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:17:25 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: Deja search code sequence?

At 03:06 PM 7/2/99 +0100, Melanie Halmarack wrote the following:

>Just thought I'd better add that I understand that various context
fields can be used
>for the search by following the "?QRY=" with, for instance,
>%7Ea+melanie@goose-island.*
>
>But what if several contexts need to be combined in one search, say
"author", "date"
>and "subject"? Can these all be strung together in one group following
the "?QRY=",
>or do they have to be entered separately after the appropriate field
label like:
>"&subjects=genetic*&groups=nutrition" as it's structured in a Power
Search query?

Yep, you can't combine in the simple search. You need to add the power
search. I'm revising the wsdeja.faq and the new one should be up on my
ftp site later today or tomorrow (I'm working on it now).

For the time being here is the power search:

POWER SEARCHING
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For DejaNews power searches you must separate words with a "+" sign.

    http://www.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/qs.xp
      ?ST=PS&QRY=&defaultOp=AND&DBS=1&OP=dnquery.xp
      &LNG=ALL&subjects=spam&groups=+&authors=+
      &fromdate=+&todate=+&showsort=score&maxhits=25

    &ST=PS  (hidden value)

  Power Search values
    &QRY= (search terms separated by "+")

  Match keywords (select one or the other)
    &defaultOP=AND  (all keywords - default)
              =OR   (any keywords)

  Archive:
    &DBS=1 (Complete archive)
        =2 (Standard archive - default)
        =3 (Adult archive)
       =4 (Jobs archive)
       =5 (For Sale archive)

 Results type
   &OP=dnquery.xp     (discussions - default)
      =ratesearch.xp  (ratings)
      =commsearch.xp  (communities)
      =CLASSIC        (Deja Classic)

 Language
   &LNG=ALL         (any - default)
       =chinese     (Chinese)
       =danish      (Danish)
       =dutch       (Dutch)
       =english     (English)
       =finnish     (Finnish)
       =french      (French)
       =german      (German)
       =hungarian   (Hungarian)
       =italian     (Italian)
       =japanese    (Japanese)
       =korean      (Korean)
       =norwegian   (Norwegian)
       =portuguese  (Portuguese)
       =polish      (Polish)
       =russian     (Russian)
       =spanish     (Spanish)
       =swedish     (Swedish)
       =vietnamese  (Vietnamese)

 Subject
   &subjects=+ (Example: FAQ or frequently+asked+questions)

 Forum
   &groups=+   (Example: alt.tv.x-files or %78x-files%78)

 Author
   &authors=+  (Example: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

 From Date
   &fromdate=+ (Example: Apr+1+1997)

 To Date
   &todate=+   (Example: Apr+5+1997)

  Sort by
    &showsort=score      (confidence - default)
             =subject    (subject)
             =newsgroup  (forum)
             =author     (author)
             =date       (date)

  Results per page
    &maxhits=25   (default)
            =50
            =100

EXAMPLE POWER SEARCH
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Find all articles [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted to alt.comp.blind-users
between June 1 and December 1, 1998

   http://www.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/qs.xp
     ?ST=PS&QRY=&defaultOp=AND&DBS=1&OP=dnquery.xp
     &LNG=ALL&subjects=&groups=alt.comp.blind-users
     &[EMAIL PROTECTED]&fromdate=Jun+1+1998
     &todate=Dec+1+1998&showsort=score&maxhits=25

--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:54:41 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WWW4-mail problem

At 08:36 AM 7/2/99 -0400, Francisco Chavez wrote the following:

>I've a problem with WWW4-mail when downloading some web pages
specifically
>the abstract of some Bio-journals (for example
>http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/96/13/7137). Few months ago I
>started to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this purpose and successfully view the
>complete abstract of the article but as bnl.gov expired I started to
receive
>again the truncated web pages when using WWW4-mail (I checked the
source of
>the document and is certainly imcomplete). What is happening?
>Thanks in advance,

I just sent a request to the Bellanet www4mailer and received this web
page. Looking at the results it matches the web page. The page you are
retrieving is the abstract. What exactly are you missing?

Here are my results:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:32:37 -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: web.bellanet.org: www4mail set sender to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f
X-Mailer: WWW4MAIL Gateway Version 2.0
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Requested (URL -
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/96/13/7137)
X-Sorted: Www4mail

[snip 28 lines]

   [10]Full Text of this Article
   [11]Reprint (PDF) Version of this Article
   [12]PubMed Citation
   [13]Related Articles in PubMed
   [14]Download to Citation Manager
   Search Medline for articles by:
   [15]Ryu, S. || [16]Tjian, R.
   Alert me when:
   [17]new articles cite this article

   Vol. 96, Issue 13, 7137-7142, June 22, 1999

Biochemistry
Purification of transcription cofactor complex CRSP

   Soojin Ryu and Robert Tjian*

   Howard Hughes Medical Institute, University of California, Molecular
   and Cell Biology, 401 Barker Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-3204

   Contributed by Robert Tjian, April 15, 1999

   Transcription of protein coding genes in metazoans involves the
   concerted action of enhancer binding proteins and the RNA polymerase
   II apparatus. The cross talk between these two classes of
   transcription factors is mediated by an elaborate set of cofactor
   complexes. For the activation of transcription by the promoter
   specificity protein 1 (Sp1), TATA binding protein-associated factors
   in the TFIID complex originally were identified as necessary
   coactivators, but the identity of additional cofactors required for
   activated transcription was unknown. Recently, we have reported the
   isolation and properties of a cofactor complex, CRSP (cofactor
   required for Sp1), which functions in conjunction with the TATA
   binding protein-associated factors to promote efficient activation of
   transcription by Sp1. CRSP contains unique subunits as well as
   polypeptides that are shared with other cofactor complexes. Here, we
   report a detailed purification protocol for the isolation of CRSP from
   human HeLa cells. Our purification strategy takes advantage of the
   ability of CRSP to bind Ni2+-nitrilotriacetic acid-agarose resin as
   well as other conventional chromatographic resins. We also describe a
   streamlined purification protocol that allows a more rapid and
   efficient means to isolate active CRSP.
   ___________________________________

   *   To whom reprint requests should be addressed. e-mail:
   [18][EMAIL PROTECTED]

   [19]Copyright � 1999 by The National Academy of Sciences
   0027-8424/99/967137-6$2.00/0
   _________________________________________________________________

   [20]Home [21]Help [22][Feedback] [23][For Subscribers] [24][Archive]
   [25][Search] [26][Contents]

References

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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:13:01 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At 05:54 PM 7/2/99 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following:

>I just send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for request a help file.
>Then I recived it. But when I try to get a URL it did
>not reply anything. I try much times but it did not work
>yet. I promise I use the right command. What is wrong with it?

Nothing wrong with it.
Are you sure you did it correctly?
Did you forget the word "request" in the subject line?

I just sent this request:

>Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 10:05:06 -0700
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: request
>
>http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.html

and received an immediate reply:

>X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.135  (B2.11; Q2.03)
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: URL: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.html
>Sender: Oliver Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:03:48 +0100
>X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by
mail6.netcom.com id KAA07331
>X-Sorted: kfs
>
>
>         List of operational and defunct servers for email only users
>
[snip remainder of listing]

--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jul 1999 11:06:06 -0500
From:    Anthony Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help me using Gophermail to download www file

Dear all

Would someone be so kind to tell me how to download file in www server by useing 
Gophermail server? I tried it on [EMAIL PROTECTED],but everytime it sends me a menu of 
it maintained.

Best wishes

Anthony

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Email for the Serious Investor

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Date:    Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:38:15 -0400
From:    mike fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: vote on inclusion of stats

i agree abt including the free email server stats
can we please take a vote now?

mike in havana

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