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Topics of the day:
1. PGP RE = Dark Angel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
2. Ftp , Agora statistics
3. email <-> gopher <-> news (2)
4. vote for stats
5. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
6. "Emailfetch" Getweb server
7. vote on inclusion of stats (3)
8. HTTPMail
9. accmail confirmation (5)
10. POST-method form (2)
11. For Michael Smirnov
12. Net stats
13. Interbot Service files
14. <No subject given>
15. News and www mirror
16. bad English?
17. wsdeja.faq (2)
18. search engines
19. web page graphics (was blank)
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 08:29:56 +0400
From: coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PGP RE = Dark Angel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
HI all!
PGP is situated at www.pgp.com
But better go to www.pgpi.com
PgPi - INternational.
You may download here new version. You may choose Commerce or
NON-Commerece version at www.pgpi.com
PGP- is the BEST privicy for All.!!!!!!!!!!!
Bye, bye. Mail to me !!!
-|- CoFFin
05.07.1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:32:50 -0700
From: Amin Dashti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ftp , Agora statistics
Hi all.
I really want the statistics be back. Although it was one day late but
could help us to know which server is functioning or which one is faster.
I don't think just one extra attached e-mail would bother some of listers.
Regards,
Amin Dashti
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:04:56 +0400
From: Andrei Savin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: email <-> gopher <-> news
Hello.
I used gophermail server to access usenet as told in:
+--------------------------------------------------+
| Accessing The Internet By E-Mail |
| Guide to Offline Internet Access |
| 8th Edition - January 1999 |
+--------------------------------------------------+
Copyright (c) 1999, Gerald E. Boyd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I sent the following command:
Type=1
Port=4320
Path=nntp ls soc.culture.magyar
Host=services.canberra.edu.au
I received the answer in the following format:
Mail this file back to gopher with an X before the menu items that you want.
If you don't mark any items, gopher will send all of them.
1. Group download in progress....
2. REAL HARDCORE.
skiped
You may edit the following two numbers to set the maximum sizes after which
GopherMail should send output as multiple email messages:
Split=27K bytes/message <- For text, bin, HQX messages (0 = No split)
Menu=100 items/message <- For menus and query responses (0 = No split)
#
Name=Group download in progress...
Numb=1
Type=0
Port=4320
Path=nntp article soc.culture.magyar 25811
Host=services.canberra.edu.au
#
Name=REAL HARDCORE
Numb=2
Type=0
Port=4320
Path=nntp article soc.culture.magyar 38384
Host=services.canberra.edu.au
skiped
There were 200 usenet topics in this message from gophermail.
QUESTIONS:
1. How can I control the number of usenet topics gophermail send to me?
2. How can I control the date of usenet topics? It means, that I need only,
let's say, last 20 fresh usenet topics. In the reply from gophermail I got 200
usenet topics any many of them seem to be old.
3. Is there any manual explaining the commands to access usenet via gophermail.
4. Why did gophermail send to me message consisting of 2 parts: first, numbered
usenet topics, second, lines starting with # (as above).
Bye,
Andrei
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:56:33 +0200
From: Frits Westra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vote for stats
Yes, and I too would like to see the stats back. This is one piece of
information every serious Accmailer needs.
Frits
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 10:07:30 GMT
> From: System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: vote for stats
>
> OK, just what is it that we have to do to get the stats back? It
> seems that everybody wants them back -- I, for one, surely do!
>
> Ivan
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:47:39 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Sun 4 Jul 1999, posted Mon, 05 Jul 1999 10:46:28
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:16:57 +0200
From: Largy Claude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Emailfetch" Getweb server
For your information, the getweb server "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" seems to be
operational again.
Claude.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:51:52 +0530
From: "Sriram N. A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vote on inclusion of stats
Uzi Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>In any case it is decided to include those stats in the list, we can set
>them to another Accmail topic, so that people who do not wish to receive
>them (and of course, who also know how to handle Listserv's Topics) can
>exclude them. Due to the fact that many people are not aware of the Topics
>option, it may not be so worthy, but I think that it is still better than
>not seperating them as a different topic.
Just to clarify matters:
>From ACCMAIL Digest - 27 Jun 1999 to 28 Jun 1999 (#1999-180)
"Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes, listserv does support topics. In fact with have 1, called NEWS.
>Generally, topics are great for a list that has a large membership and
>you break the list into many sub-lists or groups with topics. However,
>here is the key problem for the List owners manual:
>
>"... All messages posted
>to the list, regardless of topic, are included in the digest and/or
>index for the list (if available) because the same digest/index is
>prepared and sent to all the digest/index subscribers. Similarly, all
>messages posted to the list are archived in the list's notebook logs
>(if available), making it possible for subscribers to retrieve
>postings in topics they are not set to receive normally."
I might add that I am a subscriber to the digest, as I believe are the
majority of people on the list.
--
Sriram N. A.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:07:08 +0200
From: Barbara Ballico Lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vote on inclusion of stats
I vote for FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics, too
--
Barbara
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:28:13 +0530
From: "Sriram N. A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HTTPMail
Alex Cockell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>What Microsoft is now doing is not "cool", it's dangerous. It's also
>probably very proprietary. Personally, I don't want to find myself
>charged for every email message I send - I spend enough on phone bills.
David Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>Have I missed something? What is HTTPMail? If it's from Microsoft it's
>bound to be crap
Wow! Some strong feelings there - but folks, you miss the point.
HTTPMail is an "open protocol" and Hotmail is a free service. Whoever
offers it, if using a facility costs you more money than not using it,
*don't* use it! I was talking about something which should be high on
people's list of priorities here - saving money and online time!
Of course, one should not get dependent on these services - they may become
defunct at any time or start charging - witness the netaddress.com brouhaha
recently.
And I have no doubt that some clever folks will come up with a way to get
Linux to work with Hotmail - after all, Hotmail is the world's largest such
service with over 30 _million_ users...
--
Sriram N. A.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:20:01 +0400
From: Andrei Savin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: accmail confirmation
Hello Gerald,
This is my status at accmail:
> query accmail
LL> Subscription options for Andrei Savin
LL> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, list ACCMAIL:
LL> DIGEST You receive list digests, rather than individual postings
LL> FULLHDR Full (normal) mail headers
LL> NOREPRO You do not receive a copy of your own postings
LL> NOACK No acknowledgement of successfully processed
LL> postings
LL> Subscription date: 29 Jun 1999
Nevertheless, I still receive confirmations from accmail as follows:
> LL> Your message dated Sun, 04 Jul 99 12:55:49 +0400 with
> LL> subject "reference.com" has been submitted to the moderator of the
> LL> ACCMAIL list: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
Gerald, how can I solve the problem? I've read you notice message carefully as
you can see from QUERY (above)
Bye,
Andrei
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:38:45 +0700
From: Eko Priono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: POST-method form
Hi ACCmailers,
Is there any alternative way to submit a POST-method form via e-mail?
I can't get any response from [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the other
(cz) getweb is also defunct. TIA.
--Eko
Older PC helpline - http://www.egroups.com/group/survpc/
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:08:01 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POST-method form
At 10:38 PM 7/5/99 +0700, Eko Priono wrote the following:
>Is there any alternative way to submit a POST-method form via e-mail?
>I can't get any response from [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the other
>(cz) getweb is also defunct. TIA.
Yes, no, and maybe...
Use a "send http://" to a ww4mail server. The reason I say yes, no, and
maybe is because some POST methods always work, some work sometimes,
and some never work.
Currently, Deja advanced search doesn't work with a query string nor
does form page submission. That is, whether or not I use a "send
http://" or I actually submit the form, neither method works at
www4mail (doesn't work via agora either).
The Lycos advanced search works sometimes. That is, it sends results on
some requests and generates "no results" on others. The no results is
wrong because I actually check via the web page for the same request.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:48:47 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: email <-> gopher <-> news
At 12:04 PM 7/5/99 +0400, Andrei Savin wrote the following:
>I used gophermail server to access usenet as told in:
[...]
>1. How can I control the number of usenet topics gophermail send to me?
You can't. Only how many are sent per message. That is what the
Menu=100 items/message <- For menus and query responses (0 = No split)
command does.
>2. How can I control the date of usenet topics? It means, that I need
only,
>let's say, last 20 fresh usenet topics. In the reply from gophermail I
got 200
>usenet topics any many of them seem to be old.
You can't. You get all the ones the server has -- old and new.
>3. Is there any manual explaining the commands to access usenet via
gophermail.
No, except for the "stuff" I have written. Gophermail was written as an
email method for gopher use, not usenet reading...
>4. Why did gophermail send to me message consisting of 2 parts: first,
numbered
>usenet topics, second, lines starting with # (as above).
It's sending you the same files it would if you had used a physical
gopher client rather than email. The gophermail methods are to simulate
the use of a gopher client.
Install a gopher client on your PC and then go to a gopher site,. You
will see that the information is the same in the gopher client as that
in the email message.
BTW, gopher has almost entirely disappeared from the 'net. Only a few
sites remain and most of the information is old or outdated.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:59:20 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: accmail confirmation
At 06:20 PM 7/5/99 +0400, Andrei Savin wrote the following:
>Nevertheless, I still receive confirmations from accmail as follows:
>
>> LL> Your message dated Sun, 04 Jul 99 12:55:49 +0400 with
>> LL> subject "reference.com" has been submitted to the moderator of the
>> LL> ACCMAIL list: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>
>
>Gerald, how can I solve the problem? I've read you notice message
carefully as
>you can see from QUERY (above)
Oooops, sorry. I'm beginning to "lose it". My problem is that I'm
forgetting what an actual list member sees because I'm the moderator
and control all this. Actually, I don't even remember if a moderated
list member can get rid of the confirmation messages.
All the other listserv lists that I'm a member of are un-moderated. I
don't even remember what I saw before I took over this list (:>)
I could have sworn that NOACK is the correct option. Anybody else...
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:03:25 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: For Michael Smirnov
Sorry accmailers,
I got a personal message from a list membar but all I get when trying
to reply is bounces. So, Michael Smirnov, this what I have to answer
regarding your question. I included all the header information so you
can contact your ISP and show them.
>Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:09:52 +0400 (MSD)
>From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Returned mail: Local configuration error
>Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
>X-Sorted: Admin
>
>The original message was received at Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:08:19 +0400 (MSD)
>from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [192.100.81.126]
>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>553 ns2.vscc.ac.ru. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
>554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Local configuration error
>Reporting-MTA: dns; ns1.uni-vologda.ac.ru
>Received-From-MTA: DNS; netcom14.netcom.com
>Arrival-Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:08:19 +0400 (MSD)
>
>Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Action: failed
>Status: 5.5.0
>Remote-MTA: DNS; ns2.vscc.ac.ru
>Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:09:52 +0400 (MSD)
>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Received: from netcom14.netcom.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
[192.100.81.126])
> by ns1.uni-vologda.ac.ru (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA03561
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:08:19 +0400 (MSD)
>Received: from pacer2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1])
> by netcom14.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with SMTP
id NAA19234
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:48:39 -0700 (PDT)
>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32)
>Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 13:50:09 -0700
>To: "Michael Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re:
>In-Reply-To: <00ee01bec3b1$7afa3c00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>At 03:03 PM 7/1/99 +0400, Michael Smirnov wrote the following:
>
>>I have an idea about ftpmail servers list in
>>http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.html.
>>Maybe, you can place extra information about servers: maximal file size,
>>defaul encoding(MIME,UUencode),
>>confirmation.
>
>I thought about it but I don't really want to do it. I always tell
>users to get the help file for a server if they intend on using it.
>Most ftpmail servers all run the same software so have the same sizes
>and encoding methods.
>
>The help file for [EMAIL PROTECTED] says:
>
>Send the message as a Mime Verson 1.0 message.
>Text will be sent as text/plain charset=US-ASCII
>Non-text as application/octet-stream.
>If the file is splitup then it will be sent
>as a message/partial.
>
>Set the max size a file can be before it
>is split up and emailed back in parts to
>the given number of Kilo or Mega bytes.
>This is limited to 1048576.
>
>Many other ftpmail servers say the same thing...
>
>> P.S. Do you know that russian computer magazine "Computerra" wrote
about
>>you?
>>The article "Internet for the Poor" :-)
>>If you are interested, #23 ( 8 June 1999)
>
>Thanks. I visited the web site but couldn't find the article. Probably
>because I don't read Russian (:>)
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:16:33 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Net stats
Accmailers,
As you may have noticed, I supressed the daily statistics for one week
without notifying anybody. I wanted to see what you all had to say.
Well, the results where the same as last time we went through this.
More favored including the statistics. So they are back as of today.
As an aside, the membership continues to decline. As of today, 2,484
members. First time below 2,500 since I can remember. Must be everybody
is getting full access and has no need to access the 'net by email
methods. I guessed this was going to happen but wondered how long it
would take. I guess year 1999 is it. When I took over the list in Oct
1997 we had over 3,000 -- most of the decline has been this year. We
had over 2,800 in Jan 1999.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:11:14 EDT
From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Interbot Service files
X-posted ACCMail and JunoACCMail
Howdy all,
For anyone who is interested: I have posted to my website a ZIP
of updated and new interbot service files to my web site.
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/3091/interbot.zip
or
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/3091/interbot.txt
the text file is actually a UUencoded version of the ZIP. Both
are quite small.
I am willing to take more srevice files and add them to the ZIP.
--
William Andrews
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/3091/
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:18:42 +0200
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vote on inclusion of stats
I vote for FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics, too
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:57:58 +0400
From: "TR@!Ner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <No subject given>
Hi, people. I'm so sorry for my bad English and maybe my question. I really need the
e-mail adresses of servers, which can send me on my e-mail the WWW pages, cause the
servers, which I tried, send me only the text and no graphics. Maybe they did't do it
at all (send graphics, they send only text???). Waiting for your reply. Thanks a lot.
TR@!Ner.
--------------------------------
Sent by Z-Mail - http://zmail.ru
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:16:00 -0700
From: Andrei Boros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: News and www mirror
Automatic digest processor wrote:
Are there gateways on the itnernet through which one can subscribe to a
mailing list like service and get the messages from a news group?
Is there an e-mail robot that makes a mirror of a website (within
decent parameters) like programs as TeleportPro and send's it attached
to e-mail messages?
--
Andrix
E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web : http://members.tripod.com/andrei_b
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:28:02 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bad English?
Accmailers,
Please, there is no need to say in a posting "please excuse my bad
English" or words to that effect.
The list has members from 80+ countries world-wide and each and every
one of you does better with English than I ever would do in your native
language. The same probably could be said for most of the members (:>)
If I or somebody here doesn't understand exactly what a person is
trying to say or ask, then no doubt another person will or they will
ask on the list to re-phrase the question or something else.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:13:00 +0400
From: Andrei Savin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wsdeja.faq
Hello.
Where is wsdeja.faq?
> get wsdeja.faq
>> GET wsdeja.faq WSDEJA.FAQ.D ( REPLACE
>>> PORT 128,112,129,99,230,116
<<< 200 PORT command successful.
>>> RETR wsdeja.faq
<<< 550 wsdeja.faq: No such file OR directory.
Bye,
Andrei
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:32:09 +0200
From: Bo Bjulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: accmail confirmation
*** Gerald E. Boyd:
>>> LL> Your message dated Sun, 04 Jul 99 12:55:49 +0400 with
>>> LL> subject "reference.com" has been submitted to the moderator of the
>>> LL> ACCMAIL list: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>>Gerald, how can I solve the problem? I've read you notice message
>carefully as
>>you can see from QUERY (above)
>
>Oooops, sorry. I'm beginning to "lose it". My problem is that I'm
>forgetting what an actual list member sees because I'm the moderator
>and control all this. Actually, I don't even remember if a moderated
>list member can get rid of the confirmation messages.
>
>All the other listserv lists that I'm a member of are un-moderated. I
>don't even remember what I saw before I took over this list (:>)
>
>I could have sworn that NOACK is the correct option. Anybody else...
I used to manage a couple of lists using LISTSERV but none were
moderated. I've switched to majordomo so might not remember it
correctly, but I think this is it:
On moderated lists the acknowledgment that a message has been
submitted to the moderator is always sent and can't be turned off.
The rationale is that
(a) the moderator might reject the message -- that possibility is the
point of moderating
(b) when the moderator accepts a message there is often a delay until
it actually appears on the list; without the acknowledgement several
senders would probably send queries to the moderator.
--
Bo Bjulen <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:06:49 GMT
From: Adalbert Goertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: search engines
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was able to use search engines yahoo, altavista by the
search command
search yahoo keyword
I tried the same with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which didnt work.
Any ideas?
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:08:12 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: web page graphics (was blank)
At 11:57 PM 7/5/99 +0400, TR@!Ner wrote the following:
>Hi, people. I'm so sorry for my bad English and maybe my question. I
>really need the e-mail adresses of servers, which can send me on my
>e-mail the WWW pages, cause the servers, which I tried, send me only the
>text and no graphics. Maybe they did't do it at all (send graphics, they
>send only text???).
<RANT ON>
Once upon a time the Internet was all text-based. Lo and behold, a
programmer type at the CERN particle physics laboratory though it would
be nice if all the documents related to physics research around the
world could somehow be tied together. Hence, Tim Berners-Lee developed
the HTTP and HTML protocols to link *DOCUMENTS* together.
Some other cool programmer types at NCSA, namely one Marc Andressesen
though it would be neat to have a browser program under windows do the
work that Tim Berners-Lee proposed. Prior to this, browsers where not
much more that text-based like Lynx that ran on Unix machines. Hence,
the NCSA windows browser was born and later transformed into the
Netscape browser in late 1994.
Since that time for some strange reason 'net users are under the
impression that the browser and the HTTP and HTML standards were
developed for graphics -- well let me inform you they weren't --
graphics is a by-product of the original work.
Email is a text-based medium hence if you want to do things by email
methods, it's a safe money bet that they will be done in text. Why
accmailers persist in trying to get graphics is beyond my
understanding. I don't have any fasination with them at all.
When I use a search engine, I want a simple text-based page that I
submit my query to. Colors, ads, and all the other junk that clutter up
the page are a waste of time. I want results and answers to searches,
not a lot of time-wasting activities like slow-loading graphics.
I can guarantee you that if and when I start my own domain, you will
not be able to get graphics with a web page retrieval. Plain text only
- period.
<RANT OFF>
Now do you understand why the email only servers don't send graphics
with web pages?
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:12:47 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wsdeja.faq
At 10:13 PM 7/5/99 +0400, Andrei Savin wrote the following:
>Where is wsdeja.faq?
>
>> get wsdeja.faq
>>> GET wsdeja.faq WSDEJA.FAQ.D ( REPLACE
>>>> PORT 128,112,129,99,230,116
><<< 200 PORT command successful.
>>>> RETR wsdeja.faq
><<< 550 wsdeja.faq: No such file OR directory.
Sorry, Netcom is undergoing a move to Mindspring's control. Hence
things at Netcom haven't been going to well for shell users. This
includes my 5Mb of ftp storage which has suddendly shrunk to "no space
available". I updated all the faqs this past weekend and can't upload
them. Didn't work today either.
I'll let the list know when thing are up and running again...
After last weekends fiasco at Geocities I'm beginning to wonder about
my own domain.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:59:04 +0200
From: Marc Loehrwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: accmail confirmation
On 5 Jul 99, at 11:59, Gerald E. Boyd wrote:
> All the other listserv lists that I'm a member of are un-moderated. I
> don't even remember what I saw before I took over this list (:>)
>
> I could have sworn that NOACK is the correct option. Anybody else...
I checked the LISTSERV site manager's manual and all it says about
these messages is
- POST_EDITOR (linear): this is the message LISTSERV sends to people
attempting to post to the list, if it is moderated. The default is
"Your &MESSAGE has been submitted to the moderator of the &LISTNAME
list: &MBX(&MODERATOR)."
There seems to be no way to supress the notification. At least the
QUIET-Command (normally used with Listserv to omit output from
running Commands) can't be used here.
Anyway, if Gerry would be able to stop Listserv from sending these
Messages it would concern the whole list. There is no way for an
individual subscriber not to get these Messages.
Marc
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Marc Loehrwald
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: +49-172-430-3563
Fax: +49-40-2780-9402
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:44:10 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: accmail confirmation
At 11:59 PM 7/5/99 +0200, Marc Loehrwald wrote the following:
>I checked the LISTSERV site manager's manual and all it says about
>these messages is
>
>- POST_EDITOR (linear): this is the message LISTSERV sends to people
> attempting to post to the list, if it is moderated. The default is
> "Your &MESSAGE has been submitted to the moderator of the &LISTNAME
> list: &MBX(&MODERATOR)."
Good, I'm not totally losing my mind. I read the manual also but for
the life of me couldn't find anything that remotely ressembled turning
off confirmations except the NOACK.
That's the trouble we being on this side of things, I forget what the
other side looks like.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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