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Topics of the day:
1. yahoo's pop account address (2)
2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
3. "Cleanup crew has eye on Web sites" by Ross Kerber
4. about mydeja (2)
5. Bitcrawler Search
6. KFS-Characters instead of Text
7. selective download
8. Yahoo Daily News
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:52:39 -0700
From: Amin Dashti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: yahoo's pop account address
Dear Mr. Boyd:
I remember once a time you told someone the pop server address for yahoo! .
I have deleted that posting of ACCMAIL by mistake. Would you
please tell me the pop account address for yahoo.com?
Thanks in advance,
Amin Dashti
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 06:01:11 +0100
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Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:40:25 EDT
From: David Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Cleanup crew has eye on Web sites" by Ross Kerber
(The following is quoted from The Boston Globe, August 25, 1999, and will
probably be available on-line at www.boston.com for a day or two after.
It would appear that Lycos has the best possibility of incorporating
ACCMAILers' concerns into advice about Web site design.)
In a darkened office in Waltham, Stephen Moore is doing his part to clean
up the visual clutter on the World Wide Web.
As a research subject for Lycos Inc., an Internet portal company that
helps users navigate on line, Moore has evaluated the layouts of dozens
of sites -- and has declared many of them wanting. One was a
kitchen-supply site from which he tried to order a turkey smoker, until
he found the confusing array of images and text impossible to follow.
"It was so convoluted!" said Moore, a 47-year-old sales executive at Bell
Atlantic. The site's "links" led him to such merchandise as coffee
makers and tablecloths, but the smoker was nowhere to be found. "I
couldn't find it no matter where I clicked," he said.
Moore's frustration was duly noted by Lycos researchers, part of their
efforts to understand how viewers scan Web pages on the Internet, an
often often challenging task for eyes accustomed to the familiar layouts
and visual cues of the printed page.
By mapping how a person's vision travels across a computer monitor, Lycos
hopes to reduce Web-page clutter and formalize some design principles for
the sometimes chaotic new medium. Selfishly, Lycos also hopes to better
hold the the attention of millions of Internet users as the Web continues
its explosive expansion. This, in turn, will help it and other on-line
companies raise advertising rates and increase revenues.
"People don't read the Web, they browse,, so you really need to build
pages that use minimalist writing and open space," said David Hendry, a
computer scientist who oversees many of Lycos's usability studies.
"'Less is more' is something we say a lot around here."
So far, Lycos has paid about 275 volunteers $50 each for an hour of
on-line surfing, sometimes tracking their eye movements with infrared
video cameras. Other companies such as IBM Corp., Eastman Kodak Co. and
Hannaford Bros., a grocery chain that runs an on-line delivery service,
have sponsored similar studies, all in hopes of drawing more users to
their sites and keeping them there.
Lately, bits of conventional wisdom emerging from such research have
begun to influence the look of the Web. Users seem to focus initially on
material at the center of a page, sometimes with a quick glance at the
upper-left corner; then they move on to material strung along the right
side of the screen. "Exactly why users view the Web the way they do
isn't clear, says Kate Dobroth, a principal scientist at the American
Institutes for Research in Concord. While certain mechanics of human
vision may be a work, Dobroth suspects people have learned their
Web-viewing habits simply from common Web site design practices.
"It's kind of a chicken-and-egg issue," Dobroth said. "If others tend to
put their interesting information in the upper-right corner, you might
learn to look there. Then everybody else will start to think it's a good
idea."
Whatever the case, Hendry and other scientists think they can point to
other traits as well. For instance, they say new users tend to miss
material posted at the bottom of the page. And animated graphics, they
say, are a big distraction.
Tom Tullis, vice president for human interface design at Fidelity
Investments, says the company's home page once featured a flashing
"Fidelity" logo. But it was yanked after research subjects found it
distracting. Now the page features a static logo in the upper-left
corner. Tullis says the logo-placement works because it is simple. More
complex descriptions of the company and its products can wait until
people click through several more layers of pages.
"People usually have some goal, and you want to stay out of their way,"
Tullis said.
In other words, good Web sites give their users the illusion of control,
says Krzysztof Lenk, a professor at the Rhode Island School of Design in
Providence.
"Good functional aesthetics give you the sense in your mind that you're
controlling the flow of the data on the screen, rather than the other way
around," Lenk said. "You feel like you're dumb if you don't know which
button to hit."
"The notion that certain visual cues can affect consumer behavior is
reflected in the design of everything from newspapers to shampoo bottles.
As traffic on the Internet has soared since 1995, many marketing
companies have turned their attention on line as well. One, Perception
Research Services Imc., of Fort Lee, N.J., began a study for IBM several
years ago to map how people scanned its Web site.
The IBM studies used a video camera package made by ISCan Inc. of
Burlington. It includes a near-infrared light to illuminate a subject's
cornea; the remaining reflection functions as a fixed point on the eye's
surface while the pupil moves. By comparing the two locations, the
cameras determined to within an inch which part of a computer screen has
drawn a volunteer's gaze.
The results of the study prompted plenty of revisions on the ibm.com
site. For example, the study caused IBM to rethink the placement of a
flower in the prominent upper-right corner of the screen.
The plant was taking up valuable space, says Gary Bridge, a marketing
vice president at the company. "Some designer must have thought it
looked visually pretty." The photo was replaced with on-screen buttons
that link to other pages devoted to shopping and technical suport.
IBM also recently began what it calls a policy of "harmonization" to
include similar graphic elements on the tens of thousands of Web pages
maintained by about 125 different divisions within the giant computer
company. The task will cost millions of dollars, but Bridge says the
work will make it easier for visitors to scan the Web pages.
"We want it to feel like you're in one big IBM-land, not like it's all
Balkanized," Bridge said.
Dozens of other companies are also reconfiguring Web sites after studying
user viewing patterns. Hannaford Bros. plans to revamp the site of its
HomeRuns on-line delivery service next month. Among other things, it
will include a yellow-beige background rather than the current white one.
Test subjects reported the new color provided less contrast to the site's
black text, making it easier on the eyes, said HomeRuns Web manager Kirk
Doggett.
In San Antonio, Texas, SBC Communications Inc. plans to introduce a site
next month that is likely to include more visual elements in the center
section of the page, based on the firm's own studies.
Phil Kortum, SBC biomedical engineer, won't be more specific about the
pending changes but concedes the company's current home page has too much
bland text in the middle. "I wish I'd been involved in that design," he
said.
In Waltham, Lycos has also reconfigured a few pages based on its
research. For example, pages devoted to automobile and music clubs now
feature fewer words and more photographs, creating what Lycos describes
as a "cleaner environment." Some of the text that remains has been
shifted to the left side of the screen, out of the way of the more
powerful visual images.
The changes were meant to keep visitors entertained, says Lycos product
manager Alka Gupta, and appeal to the notoriously short attention span of
younger Web users. "If you want to keep them, you need to spoon-feed
them." Gupta said.
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:22:25 +0800
From: steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: about mydeja
Hi,listers,
I am eager to know how to get newsgroup posts
via email.I heard that mydeja.com can do this.
But after I went to mydeja web page and register me in,I received nothing.
Please tell me how to get it?
Steve Bai
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:56:24 +0200
From: Toldy Lajos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bitcrawler Search
Hello,
The http://www.bitcrawler.com/ is a fine .zip file search engine
what is useable with email, too. Let you send the next URL for
an agora or getweb/www4mail server:
http://www.bitcrawler.com/bin/search.bcrl?history=365\
&mxh=1&searchin=desk&searchfd=searchvalue\
&searchtype=call&limitto=100&hitspp=20
The parameters are:
?history=365 hidden parameter, its value is 365
&mxh=1 hidden parameter, its value is 1
&searchin= searching method is
desk : in file descriptions (default)
filen : only in file names
&searchfd= let you give the searchable words
(max. length is 35 chars)
&searchtype= seraching type settings:
subs : substring search
subm : multiple substring search
cany : match any words (or)
call : match all words (and) (default)
scom : search complete string
&limitto= number of max hits (default: 100)
&hitspp= hits per page (default: 20)
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:50:33 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: yahoo's pop account address
At 11:52 PM 8/21/99 -0700, Amin Dashti wrote the following:
> I remember once a time you told someone the pop server address for
yahoo! .
>I have deleted that posting of ACCMAIL by mistake. Would you
>please tell me the pop account address for yahoo.com?
It was pop.yahoo.com, now it is mailhost.yahoo.com
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:59:27 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KFS-Characters instead of Text
At 10:39 PM 8/20/99 +0530, Shashi Chopra wrote the following:
>I have set
>up Mime option in Plain text setting.
Did you check "Allow 8-bit characters in headers"?
Also, is MIME encoding set to "Quoted-printable" or "Base64" (best choice)
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:53:01 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: about mydeja
At 04:22 PM 8/21/99 +0800, steve wrote the following:
>I am eager to know how to get newsgroup posts
>via email.I heard that mydeja.com can do this.
>But after I went to mydeja web page and register me in,I received
nothing.
>Please tell me how to get it?
1. After you registered did you go to login page?
2. Did you then subcribe to a new forum?
3. Did you then select the option to deliver by email?
4. Did you then do steps 2 and 3 for all forums of interest?
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:09:11 +0430
From: "Mohammad R. Arjomandi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: selective download
At Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:28:54 +0300, venci vidov
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I need to have selective download email messages. I use
Pegasus mail.
>Can you share your experience or recommend an email client.
Hello Venci,
Thanks to Mr. Daniel Guevel, I finally found a small program
(51KBytes) named "SimpleCheck.exe".
Because of some problems, if I receive a large file greater
than about 200-300kB, I go trouble, and have to ask my ISP
admins to delete it. I use OE4, that doesn't have ability of
selective downloading through a POP account. So I found
SimpleCheck *very useful*.
Here is some features of SimpleCheck.exe:
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Simple Check is a tiny program that resides in the Windows
95/98/NT4.0/CE
system tray and can regularly check (multiple) POP3 e-mail
accounts. It has
several means of notifying you about incoming messages:
1. by a selected(.wav)sound or/and
2. by flashing system tray icon or
3. by an always-on-top message box or
4. by popping up its own result window
SimpleCheck has a simple account editor, a result window and
message
preview window. The result window shows message header
information and
includes "From", "Subject", "Size" and "Date" fields.
SimpleCheck can also launch your favorite e-mail program,
delete unwanted messages and download one or more messages
into a message preview window.
SimpleCheck stores all information about accounts
(mailboxes) in the system registry.
SimpleCheck supports secured authorization (APOP command)
for servers that support optional POP3 commands.
SimpleCheck also has an auto dial/hang-up feature.
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Simplecheck is freeware. you can contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED] about it, visit
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7468
or, send me offlist to send back a zip version to you.
Hope this helps,
Mohammad
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:12:36 +0200
From: Frits Westra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Yahoo Daily News
Here is a link to various news reports:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/tx/
This is frameless text-based site, very accmailer-friendly. Emphasis
here is on American news.
Does somebody have suggestions for similar sites specialized in
European news?
Thanks for the input,
Frits Westra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Registered
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