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Topics of the day:

  1. News:  another gophermail is working again
  2. Archie in Asia
  3. Foxmail
  4. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
  5. Mac UUDEVIEW?
  6. News from Downloadslave - (Computer translations of human languages)
  7. How to uncompress .TGZ files? (2)
  8. ONElist Web Site Overhaul
  9. FORMS
 10. Email sending format... (2)
 11. How to find the address
 12. Web-based mail system
 13. a page dayly (2)

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Date:    Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:27:51 -0300
From:    GB&A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: News:  another gophermail is working again

The gopher mail server [EMAIL PROTECTED] is working again and very fine.
It answer me several times in only minutes.

Good luck gopher fans !

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Date:    Sun, 5 Sep 1999 20:03:55 -0300
From:    GB&A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Archie in Asia

At 10:54 PM 8/31/99 +0100, thuan wrote the following:

>I want find Archie Server in Asia , Please help me !  Thank you !

Tray this archie in Korea:

        [EMAIL PROTECTED]


garcibal

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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:06:45 +1200
From:    Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Foxmail

Gidday all,

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 dR.hErN�n e. b�rCEnA Y l�peZ wrote:

--- snip

BODY:

OPEN ftp.ncu.edu.tw
cd /cpatch/email/foxmail/source
CHUNKSIZE 0
DIR
BINARY
CHUNKSIZE 0
GET fm30b1.zip
QUIT
CLOSE

--- snip

The above DIR command isn't necessary to get the file. It will send you back
a listing of the current directory. Mind you, if that is what you want ...

Hope I'm not adding confusion :-)

Chris.
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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 06:00:48 +0100
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics

FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Sun 5 Sep 1999, posted Mon, 06 Sep 1999 05:00:02 
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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:21:45 +1200
From:    Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mac UUDEVIEW?

Gidday all,

On Sat, 4 Sep 1999 Tim May wrote:

>if you use UUDEVIEW it will find all the files in the directory
>and automatically decode them finding all the parts and decode it
>without you having to do anything else you shouldnt have to save them with
>a >different file name or anything (as long as they are numbered)

Is there a version of this program or one like it for the macintosh running
system 7.5?

Would you just put all your files i.e file1 ... file100 and this program
decodes unsplits and creates an executable in one sweep?

This would be great

Thanks in advance
Chris.
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Date:    Sun, 5 Sep 1999 16:55:39 -0500
From:    Bruce Cordero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: News from Downloadslave - (Computer translations of human
         languages)

> It seems unlikely that translation programs will replace human
translators
> in the foreseeable future....

The Wall Street Journal once carried an article "Computers Gain as
Language Translators Even Though Perfect Not They Always" by William M.
Bulkeley (February 6, 1985, p. 25)  It presented the following
translations in an early English to Russian system:

----------------------------------------------------
|ENGLISH PHRASE              |RUSSIAN TRANSLATION
|The spirit is willing       |The vodka is good but
|but the flesh is weak.      |the meat is rotten.
|                            |
|Out of sight, out of mind   |Invisible maniac.
----------------------------------------------------

Have we come much farther than this?

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Date:    Sat, 4 Sep 1999 19:22:59 +0700
From:    Thuan Hua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to uncompress .TGZ files?

        I have some .TGZ files but don't know how to uncompress
them. I have tried to unzip them by gzip program in UNIX but can't
        I am grateful to who guide me. Thank!!!

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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:18:12 +0200
From:    "Lena [Kiev.Ukraine]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ONElist Web Site Overhaul

> From:    Frits Westra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> ONElist, the home of many thousands of free mailing lists, has done a
> complete overhaul on its web site and the entire format has changed.
> The bad news is that the search string for mailing lists that I've
> posted here before doesn't seem to work anymore.

Canonical :) example of simple search for the words "frogs" and
"dissection": <http://www.onelist.com/search?q=frogs+dissection>.
Advanced search adds the possibility to search by language,
the form for it on <http://www.onelist.com/search> is METHOD=GET
and can be filled using Mr. Boyd's method of "cracking"
or using getweb or www4mail.

>  The good news is that
> the ONElist website is browsable now.

There is one more piece of good news: after the overhaul
I at last managed to login (it's called "sign-in" on ONElist now)
to <http://www.onelist.com> using <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
It means that now accmailers can create own mailing lists on ONElist
and manage them, in particular moderate subscription to restricted
lists (to moderate messages is practically unreal for accmailers).
ONElist gives many options: lists can be open (anybody can subscribe),
restricted (moderator approves or denies subscription on individual
basis) or announcement (only owner can post); moderated (each posting
must be approved by moderator) or not; it's possible to ban
susbcribers, set no-post mode on individual basis, ban attachments
(in any case attachments aren't placed into digests and archive),
give part of moderator privilegies to selected subscribers etc.
A list's archive on <http://www.onelist.com> can be public (available
for everybody), private (available only for the list's subscribers)
or absent. Lists can be hidden (invisible for search), there are
other options.

I own an active (73 subscribers, there were over 1800 postings)
restricted non-hidden mailing list with private archive on ONElist.
I created it (using getweb) more than year ago when ONElist didn't
yield yet to the "infection" to use cookies. After that unlucky event
(in September 1998) I had to pass moderator privilegies to two friends
with online access. Recently I acquired online access (unreliable,
very slow and only at night) besides my relatively stable e-mail only
(UUCP) access and was able to resume moderator functions. I can say
that ONElist is relatively good free service.

ONElist requires to use cookies, but <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
supports cookies. Currently administrators of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disabled cookies support.
You can check does a www4mail support cookies by the "HELP INFO" command.
Before the overhaul, attempts to login gave the "no cookies" error
even with <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (I'm not sure why).

In order to create a mailing list on ONElist, you at first must
login (sign-in). It creates a cookie in your "cookies jar" on
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> server's disk. The cookie is checked
during your consequent use of those pages on the <http://www.onelist.com>
web-site, access to which is resticted. Some pages are unrestricted
and can be downloaded also using other web-mail servers.  In order
to sign-in you must know the password corresponding with the e-mail
address you are using. What to do if you haven't the password:

1. If you ever registered on <http://www.onelist.com> or was ever
subscribed to a mailing list on ONElist then the password already
exists. Using getweb or any www4mail, fill the form on
<http://www.onelist.com/remind>, and the password will be sent
to you via e-mail.

2. Otherwise you must register, it's free. For accmailers the easiest
way to register is to subscribe to any mailing list on ONElist
using "listname-subscribe" address. I recommend to subscribe to
the "onelist_announce" mailing list - it's useful by itself,
you'll receive (rare) announcements from ONElist management about
new ONElist features and (very rare) sheduled maintenance delays. So,
send empty (or any) e-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
If you indeed never registered on ONElist then you'll receive a letter
with "Subject: ONElist confirm" with instructions and password.
You must reply to that e-mail (reply can be empty or any).
If you don't find the word "password" in the e-mail or if you
receive only notification of subscription then you was registered
earlier, see paragraph 1 above.

Now you know the password and must sign-in. Send:

| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| XFORM=FORM ACTION /myonelist METHOD post
| XBASE = http://www.onelist.com
| XFORMREPLY = TEXT
| login_email=********
| login_password=********
| login_persistence=1
| XSUBMIT_NOW = on
| XFORM= /FORM

You must substitute strings of asterisks by your e-mail address
and password. If you use an offline browser for filling of forms then
omit the "XFORMREPLY = TEXT" line. You can add the XNOSTAT command.

If some mailing lists on ONElist to which you are subscribed
have private archives, after sign-in you can browse these
archives using <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. You can also
create own mailing lists on ONElist. For it fill the form on
<http://www.onelist.com/newlist> using <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
But at first study <http://www.onelist.com/info/features.html>,
<http://www.onelist.com/info/tos.html>,
<http://www.onelist.com/help/index.html>.

Remember that if you don't use <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
during month then your "cookie jar" will be deleted.
Also it may be deleted if an administrator reinstalls
www4mail software (it can be because of upgrade).
So, if you get an error message about cookies then sign-in again.

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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:29:08 +0200
From:    Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FORMS

Greetings

Doing forms with WWW4mail for email only users has been a headache.
The 'XFORMREPLY = TEXT' can only be done with the 'wm.ictp.trieste.it'
server, but its tedious and very complicated.

I have found a way to decipher the form very easily. First you need
to download a freeware browser called "NeoPlanet". After installing
it all you need to do is change the WWW4mail form method from POST to
GET and fill the from and click the submit button. This activates a
email in NeoPlanet. The TO: field will have a long string. Now, all
you need to do is to copy this to the body of your email program
omitting the email address and line braking at every "&".

I hope I'm clear.

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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:05:15 +0500
From:    Kazmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Email sending format...

Gerry would you be kind enough to tell, again, what settings to make to send
a message in simple text. I made the settings but then  have had some
reinstallations, etc. and now it is back to HTML format, etc. I am using
Outlook Express 5, and even though I have set it to 'plain text' in the mail
sending option still I have a feeling it is sending the garbage along.
Regards.
S. Ali R. Kazmi
Islamabad, Pakistan.

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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:26:09 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to find the address

At 11:27 PM 9/5/99 +0400, Alex Yefimov wrote the following:

>How can I find/get the address of my friend in USA, if I know
first/last name, state and company, he is working for?

Try these sites via a www4mail form request:

Try the WhoWhere? PeopleSearch
http://www.whowhere.com/

Look into InfoSeek's People Finder
http://infoseek.go.com/find/people_finder.html

Try Yahoo People Search
http://people.yahoo.com/
(Includes old Four11 White Page Directory)
(includes the old LookUP! Directory)
(option to include yourself)

Look into InfoSpace Find
http://www.infospace.com/

Try MSN White Pages
http://in-115.infospace.com/info.msn/email1.htm
(includes old InfoSpace Accumail)

Try the World E-mail Directory
http://www.worldemail.com/

Try Switchboard Find A Person
http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cgiqa.dll?MEM=1

Try Excite Find A Person
http://www.excite.com/reference/email_lookup/

Also try Bigfoot Find People
http://www.bigfoot.com/

Also try Yahoo's reference to white pages
http://www.yahoo.com/Reference/White_Pages/

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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:38:55 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to uncompress .TGZ files?

At 07:22 PM 9/4/99 +0700, Thuan Hua wrote the following:

>        I have some .TGZ files but don't know how to uncompress
>them. I have tried to unzip them by gzip program in UNIX but can't

This is a "shortcut" name for a tarred and gzipped file.  Normally,
these appear as: file.tar.gz in Unix and file.tgz in DOS

For Unix
gunzip filename.tgz

If you then end up with a ".tar" file, then
to unpack such a file, do this:

                tar -xvf file.tar


For DOS
gzip -d filename.tgz

You will then end up with a "tar" file wihich you "untar"...
I use the DOS gzip1.2.4 program..

C:\UTILS> gzip -h
gzip 1.2.4 (18 Aug 93)
usage: gzip [-acdfhlLnNtvV19] [-S suffix] [file ...]
 -a --ascii       ascii text; convert end-of-lines using local conventions
 -c --stdout      write on standard output, keep original files unchanged
 -d --decompress  decompress
 -f --force       force overwrite of output file and compress links
 -h --help        give this help
 -l --list        list compressed file contents
 -L --license     display software license
 -n --no-name     do not save or restore the original name and time stamp
 -N --name        save or restore the original name and time stamp
 -q --quiet       suppress all warnings
 -S .suf  --suffix .suf     use suffix .suf on compressed files
 -t --test        test compressed file integrity
 -v --verbose     verbose mode
 -V --version     display version number
 -1 --fast        compress faster
 -9 --best        compress better
 file...          files to (de)compress. If none given, use standard
input.

You can find this on any of the shareware archives or simply here:
gzip124.zip   (930818)  114K  GNUzip: Unix compress/uncompress replacement
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/compress/gzip124.zip
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:04:28 -0400
From:    Godofredo Garay Alvarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web-based mail system

Hello,
Where can I get a web-based mail system.(something like yahoo mail)

TIA

--Godofredo Garay Alvarez

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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:03:40 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Email sending format...

At 06:05 PM 9/6/99 +0500, Kazmi wrote the following:

>Gerry would you be kind enough to tell, again, what settings to make
to send
>a message in simple text. I made the settings but then  have had some
>reinstallations, etc. and now it is back to HTML format, etc. I am using
>Outlook Express 5, and even though I have set it to 'plain text' in
the mail
>sending option still I have a feeling it is sending the garbage along.

Well, this message is just fine or I would not have posted it (:>)

For those that would like to know how to do this in other email
programs, see:
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/nomime.html

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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:23:56 -0400
From:    Roberto Safora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: a page dayly

Any way that I can configure my e-mail client in such a way that everyday a
message is sent to a w4server asking for example www.nytimes.com?
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Date:    Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:34:58 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: a page dayly

At 03:23 PM 9/6/99 -0400, Roberto Safora wrote the following:

>Any way that I can configure my e-mail client in such a way that
everyday a
>message is sent to a w4server asking for example www.nytimes.com?
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What you need if using Windows is a utility similar to Unix called
cron. I found some Windows cron utilities but I dont have a
recommendation...

Win 3.x
wincron.zip 111K 09/29/91 Windows Cron-like Task Scheduler
http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/win3/util/wincron.zip/

UNIX'S CRON-LIKE UTILITY FOR WINDOWS 3.0/3.1
http://home.cdarchive.com/ftp/shareware/win_util/15a/WCRON22G.ZIP

Windows 95/98 UNIX Ports and Commands
http://www.winfiles.com/apps/98/unix.html


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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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