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Topics of the day:
1. I keep forgeting this- way to do whois by email? (2)
2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
3. Computer translations of human languages
4. www4mail forms using IE5/Outlook Express
5. Mac UUDEVIEW?
6. Forms
7. Web Based Mail System
8. News from Downloadslave - (Computer translations of human language
9. multiple selection
10. yahoo's pop account address (2)
11. Web Page Publishing via E-Mail Limited to Internettrash.com
12. Java Tutorial. (2)
13. <No subject given>
14. Web-based mail system
15. Interbot & OE4
16. NEWS: More defunct servers?
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:48:38 -0700
From: Mark Panitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I keep forgeting this- way to do whois by email?
I keep forgetting this (and forgetting to save the instructions)
is there a way to do whois by email?
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:00:46 +0100
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:06:00 EDT
From: David Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Computer translations of human languages
>
>Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 16:55:39 -0500
>From: Bruce Cordero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: News from Downloadslave - (Computer translations of human
> languages)
>
>> It seems unlikely that translation programs will replace human
>translators
>> in the foreseeable future....
>
>The Wall Street Journal once carried an article "Computers Gain as
>Language Translators Even Though Perfect Not They Always" by William
>M.
>Bulkeley (February 6, 1985, p. 25) It presented the following
>translations in an early English to Russian system:
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>|ENGLISH PHRASE |RUSSIAN TRANSLATION
>|The spirit is willing |The vodka is good but
>|but the flesh is weak. |the meat is rotten.
>| |
>|Out of sight, out of mind |Invisible maniac.
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>Have we come much farther than this?
>
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>
I noted this story when it appeared in Science Digest in the early '50s.
At that time the target language was Chinese, not Russian, "Invisible
maniac" was "Blind maniac," and computers were not involved at all. It
concerned a young man who translated certain phrases into Chinese and had
an elder render them back into English. So, in answer to the question
"Have we come much farther than this?" I would have to say the reference
point is not valid, therefore the question is not valid.
David Ames
--
"C++ is not an honor grade. We offered jobs to students with B or better
in CompSci."
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:16:12 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: www4mail forms using IE5/Outlook Express
I have recently switched from Netscape to IE5 for viewing html files
(forms) returned by [EMAIL PROTECTED] et al.
However, when I press the "Get Selected Documents" button at the bottom of
the page and Outlook Express starts up, all it shows is the "To:" field
filled in, and nothing else. (This is unlike Netscape which just sent the
form with no further intervention.)
Therefore I do not get sent the requested documents.
Can someone offer a suggestion as to what I am doing wrong. I have played
around with OE's setting but can't see anything obvious.
Thanks,
Bob
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:01:48 -0600
From: Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mac UUDEVIEW?
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Chris Bannister wrote:
> Gidday all,
>
> On Sat, 4 Sep 1999 Tim May wrote:
>
> >if you use UUDEVIEW it will find all the files in the directory
> >and automatically decode them finding all the parts and decode it
> >without you having to do anything else you shouldnt have to save them with
> >a >different file name or anything (as long as they are numbered)
>
> Is there a version of this program or one like it for the macintosh running
> system 7.5?
im not sure if there is a version for the mac or not
>
> Would you just put all your files i.e file1 ... file100 and this program
> decodes unsplits and creates an executable in one sweep?
yes just put them all in a Dir and it will decode them Automatically!
> This would be great
it is!
> Thanks in advance
> Chris.
> ======
Tim May
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:33:08 +0200
From: "Lena [Kiev.Ukraine]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Forms
> The 'XFORMREPLY = TEXT' can only be done with the 'wm.ictp.trieste.it'
> server
Both other www4mail servers recently were upgraded and now support
"XFORMREPLY=TEXT" (and also XNOSTAT).
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:32:51 -0500
From: Victor Orellano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web Based Mail System
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> Hello,
> Where can I get a web-based mail system.(something like yahoo mail)
Try http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/8015/free.html.
They have hundreds of free POP3, Forwarding and Web Based e-mail
addresses.
Victor
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:01:00 +0100
From: David Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: News from Downloadslave - (Computer translations of human language
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The Wall Street Journal once carried an article "Computers Gain as
> Language Translators Even Though Perfect Not They Always" by William M.
> Bulkeley (February 6, 1985, p. 25) It presented the following
> translations in an early English to Russian system:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> |ENGLISH PHRASE |RUSSIAN TRANSLATION
> |The spirit is willing |The vodka is good but
> |but the flesh is weak. |the meat is rotten.
> | |
> |Out of sight, out of mind |Invisible maniac.
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Have we come much farther than this?
Not really. A good example of how laughable the "output" of translation
programs is can be seen at http://www.soldron.de/warmbodeneng.htm
Bye,
.''''
(-()() David
)
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:33:18 GMT
From: Scaracco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: multiple selection
>When downloading a file separated in parts it takes a lot af time to save it
>in a directory. I first select one part, save as,.. and so with every part.
>If we talk about a 100 part file, you can imagine what happens.Then I use
>UUdeview to get the whole file. Is there any way to save all the parts with
>a few steps?
>I use W98 and outlook express.
>Roberto Safora
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think you can obtain the file directly from your e-mail client.
I use Agent 1.5 (Win98) and when I receive multi-part messages, I select
all the chuncks and select the menu "Message/Join sections".
I hope Outlook have this option too! Probably you can find information
in the help file.
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:42:22 +0100
From: Dave Parsonage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: yahoo's pop account address
Hi All,
After more investigation, I managed to solve the "invalid name/password"
problem - you have to go into the Options section on the Yahoo! Mail webpage
and actively sign up for POP3 mail. You also have the option of forwarding all
Yahoo! emails to an external address instead of POP3. The 'mailhost.yahoo.com'
address is now invalid.
Not much use for email only users, I'm afraid.
Rgds,
DP.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Parsonage [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 1:09 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Re: yahoo's pop account address
>It was pop.yahoo.com, now it is mailhost.yahoo.com
>-Gerry Boyd -- gboyd@netcom
I can't seem to get my Yahoo! email thro' POP3 :
I tried both the above and then the suggestion on the Yahoo! mail help page :
Incoming Mail (POP3) Server:
pop.mail.yahoo.com
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server:
smtp.mail.yahoo.com
Account Name/Login
Name: Your Yahoo! Mail name
(your address without the
"@yahoo.com")
E-mail address:
Your Yahoo! Mail address
(i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Password:
Your Yahoo! Mail password
The pop.mail.yahoo.com approach got closest, but still said "invalid
name/password".
Has anyone got it to work ?
I have tried Outlook 97 and EudoraPro with no success (with two different
Yahoo! accounts). Normal Web retrieval works OK, but I want a short dial-up
session for POP3, which I prefer.
Rgds,
DP.
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:27:19 +0430
From: Kamran Afham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web Page Publishing via E-Mail Limited to Internettrash.com
Dear all,
Most interactions of ACCMAIL users with Internet has
a nature of one-way direction, that is-- requesting web
pages. This hinders the productivity and creativity of
users because they receive information much more
than they themselves can produce and send. I believe
that web page designing and publishing via email can
help email only users to be more active and productive
in their interactions with Internet.
Mr. Gerald Boyd kindly gave some clues about the sites
(Angelfire and Internettrash) which offer free web page
publishing via email. However, my experience is limited to
Internettrash and I have had no success with Angelfire so far.
Is there anyone who can help me with uploading web pages
to Angelfire or similar sites via email?
I appreciate any suggestion from ACCMAIL members.
Yours sincerely,
Kamran Afham
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:32:03 +0700
From: Thuan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Java Tutorial.
Can anyone help me how to download the Java Tutorial from the java.sun.com
site. Thanks for any help.
Thuan Nguyen.
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:09:13 +0100
From: Dave Parsonage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: yahoo's pop account address
>It was pop.yahoo.com, now it is mailhost.yahoo.com
>-Gerry Boyd -- gboyd@netcom
I can't seem to get my Yahoo! email thro' POP3 :
I tried both the above and then the suggestion on the Yahoo! mail help page :
Incoming Mail (POP3) Server:
pop.mail.yahoo.com
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server:
smtp.mail.yahoo.com
Account Name/Login
Name: Your Yahoo! Mail name
(your address without the
"@yahoo.com")
E-mail address:
Your Yahoo! Mail address
(i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Password:
Your Yahoo! Mail password
The pop.mail.yahoo.com approach got closest, but still said "invalid
name/password".
Has anyone got it to work ?
I have tried Outlook 97 and EudoraPro with no success (with two different
Yahoo! accounts). Normal Web retrieval works OK, but I want a short dial-up
session for POP3, which I prefer.
Rgds,
DP.
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:48:51 +0400
From: Alexander Chistyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <No subject given>
Hello, everybody!
Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] defunct? Will it be supported? If it is out of service
permanently, how can I find mailing lists by
keywords using ACCMAIL methods?
I received this today as result of my search query:
+++ Quotation begins +++
====================================================================
Liszt-by-mail search on: Windows and NT and devel* and driver*
====================================================================
Not Found
The requested URL /cgi-bin/liszt-mail.cgi was not found on this
server.
_________________________________________________________________
Apache/1.3.4 Server at liszt.liszt.com Port 80
+++ Quotation ends +++
---
Alexander A. Chistyakov, Russia, Saint-Petersburg, LONIIS
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:35:57 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I keep forgeting this- way to do whois by email?
At 09:48 PM 9/6/99 -0700, Mark Panitz wrote the following:
>I keep forgetting this (and forgetting to save the instructions)
>is there a way to do whois by email?
Sure is... These all work by email methods
http://alabanza.com/kabacoff/Inter-Links/cgi/whois.cgi
http://www.arin.net/whois/
http://www.ntua.gr/cgi-bin/rwhois?
http://www.ripe.net/db/whois.html
http://www.switch.ch/search/whois_form.html
http://www.systime.com/cgi-bin/whois?
IP address only
http://www.rlg.org/cgi-bin/ip2ariadr.pl?addr=
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:17:33 GMT
From: Bob Appleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Web-based mail system
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:04:28 -0400, Godofredo Garay Alvarez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Where can I get a web-based mail system.(something like yahoo mail)
Try www.emailaddresses.com and take your pick of over 100.
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:51:09 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Java Tutorial.
At 11:32 PM 9/7/99 +0700, Thuan Nguyen wrote the following:
>Can anyone help me how to download the Java Tutorial from the
java.sun.com
>site. Thanks for any help.
Grab this web page for instructions
http://www.java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/information/download.html
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:34:37 +0430
From: "Mohammad R. Arjomandi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Interbot & OE4
Hello,
I downloaded Interbot from Juno_Accmail Autobot.
When I finish a category and press "GO" button, only To: and Subject:
fields are correct, but there is no text in the body of the new email
placed in "outbox" folder.
I use OE4.72, and Interbot recognized my email client as:
"Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.1 Spam Hater"
There must be some Juno_Accmail guys, or others who use Interbot here.
How do you solve compatibility problem between Interbot (v1.20) and OE?
Is there similar
problem(s) with other email clients and Interbot?
Thanks a lot,
Mohammad
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:17:57 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEWS: More defunct servers?
Accmailers,
Some of these cannot be confirmed exactly yet as I either haven't found
a contact person or the contact people haven't responded. But I cannot
get responses from:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Deferred: Connection refused by www.undp.org (3
times)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- no answer 3 times
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- no answer 3 times
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Scotty Southwick is gone and doesn't reply to
email sent to him. I received this from an admin address at Topica.com:
At 09:36 AM 9/2/99 -0700, Salim M Virji wrote the following:
>this feature was removed from Liszt once Topica took over the site.
>How did this error occur? If someone followed a link to get to the
>page, please let me know the origin, so that we can remove it.
>thanks,
>from Salim
I've sent two more requests to Salim requesting that the email search
address be reinstated but have heard no further...
Gads, pretty soon all we will have left is www4mail and ftpmail...
Haven't decided whether or not to move all of these to the defunct
category. If so, then no more Archie servers by email are left.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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