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Topics of the day:
1. www4mail Server "Get selected Documents" Problematic
2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
3. I need utility for quoted-printable!
4. how to know if someone is on-line by email
5. Images
6. joining files splitted by www4mail servers
7. Downloadslave zip files.
8. How to reply to accmail with the original message?
9. Excellent Idea...!!MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD ABOUT LISZTER!!!
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:18:04 +0500
From: S RAMAMURTHY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: www4mail Server "Get selected Documents" Problematic
Dear Accmailers,
The following is a message from a co-accmailer. The same problem with me
too. Kindly give a workaround for this.
Azeem.
Dear Azeem,
I learned from your email to ACCMAIL that you have the same
problems with www4mail server like me , especially in terms of
"Get Selected Documents".
I also read the instructions of Mr. Clement Onime in this regard.
It seems very difficult to handle forms and password protected
webpages by www4mail. Do you know of any other server like
"getweb" to handle such requests more easily?
Please let me know of any success you or other members have
made.
Thanks
Kamran Afham
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 06:01:14 +0100
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Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:46:02 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need utility for quoted-printable!
At 09:06 AM 9/23/99 +0400, Alexander Artjukov wrote the following:
>Has received the letter in the coding Content-Transfer-Encoding:
quoted-printable.
>Mine old DOS-mailer does not understand the new codings. It is
necessary to get by
>the utilities of code translation. I already have utility for base64.
Please, send me such
>utility or known to you URL, on which it is possible to find something
like that.
Any of the common Win 95/98 email programs will handle this type.
Netscape, IE, Outlook Express, Eudora, etc.
To learn more about the The Content-Transfer-Encoding Header Field see:
http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/MIME/1521/05_Content-Transfer-Encodin
g.html
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:24:37 -0400
From: Daniel Guevel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to know if someone is on-line by email
Hello,
I do not think it is possible, but I will ask anyway:
Is it possible to know if a person is online by using his email address and
some ACCMail method?.
I know you can send an email message to an ICQ number
([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Then you can wait for a reply. I do not know
if the other services like AOL instant messenger or yahoo pager can be
accessed by email.
If the person is on-line but not using any of these pagers, is it possible
to know about his presence in the net?. I have relatives and friends abroad
who have web access (I also access one IRC channel) and I would like to know
to contact them.
Thanks for your help.
Daniel
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:03:20 PDT
From: J�rel DD Arbaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Images
}Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:09:46 -0400
}From: "Dr. Anibal J. Gonzalez Echevarria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Subject: Images
}
}Mr. Boyds and Accmailers:
}
}I would be very grateful if some of you tell me which document is about
}how to get images in Internet, with e.mail only, for example, I need
}http://www.uroatlas.net/fotos/lit-esp06.JPG
}I need specially the images, not the text.
}
If you request this as if it were a text file, from MOST web via mail
servers, the server normally will send you a UU-encoded version of that
file. See the FAQ for this list (instructions below the table of
contents of digests or at the end of non-digeat messages) for more
information.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:15:24 PDT
From: J�rel DD Arbaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: joining files splitted by www4mail servers
}Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:16:52 +0800
}From: CARL_M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Subject: Re: joining files splitted by www4mail servers
}
}if you are using a Pine (or similar email client )
}what you can *exactly* do is to
}save those files in the order that you want in a single folder.
}
}the folder would then contain the separate parts in the correct
}order.
}
}i am not sure if this would work in other email clients. I use
}Pine 3.96, and it's email folder is actually a single file containing
}all the emails that i saved in that particular folder.
}
Juno version 1.xx works the same, but 2.xx and 3.xx use a binaried format
that this will not work on. Better decoders will sort them for you,
saving a step.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:21:50 PDT
From: J�rel DD Arbaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloadslave zip files.
}Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:36:41 +0200
}From: GVFR Bocci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Subject: Downloadslave zip files.
}
}Hi Mr. Boyd and all ACCMailers,
}
}I have problems unzipping files received through Downloadslave. When I
try
}to unzip them I receive error messages like " start of central directory
not
}found: Zip file corrupt. Possible cause: file transfer error.
}Is anyone else having the same problems ?
}
The most common causes of this include, Missing parts and parts out of
order. Before tossing uu-encoded parts away, always try a pkunzip -t on
it first. Or if you use infozip, then the exact error above will not
happen, but the -t switch should also be used. (infozip can easily get
parts from a truncated zip file. Pkunzip requires that you run pkzipfix,
then try the created file.)
You did not indicate what decoder you were using.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:01:07 PDT
From: J�rel DD Arbaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to reply to accmail with the original message?
}Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:47:32 +0800
}From: CARL_M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Subject: How to reply to accmail with the original message?
}
}dear accmailers,
}
} i find it awkward to reply to a particular query of an accmailer
without
}including the original message. i am using pine 3.96, and if i want to
}respond to a message, the whole message (accmail digest) will be
}included. furthermore, i have to manually put the subject of the message
}i am responding to. the pine mailer automatically puts RE:ACCMAIL
}DIGEST... so i have to replace it with RE:<original subject of query>.
}
} can anyone teach me how to reply to a particular accmail query without
}including the whole accmail digest (only the message i want to reply
to)?
}
The best option may be to try using the mime format option on the list
server. While this will not work, at least not as well, with Digest
Reader, it may work with your mail client.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Body:
set accmail mime
or to turn it off
set accmail nomime
While the nomime accmail digests are not quite 100% RFC1153 compliant,
they are close enough to use Digest Reader. I think there is a version
in the windows 3 portion of the simtelnet software archive, or if not,
then I think the junoaccmail site has a copy. Attempts to contact its
author have failed, but it appears to work. (I use it!)
Directory simtelnet/win3/inet/
dr_189f.zip B 98539 960408 MS Windows mailing-list-digest reader
I do not know if there is a w9x version, but this should work there too.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:03:01 PDT
From: J�rel DD Arbaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Excellent Idea...!!MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD ABOUT LISZTER!!!
}Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:26:04 -0300
}From: GB&A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Subject: Re: Excellent Idea...!!MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD ABOUT LISZTER!!!
}
}Hi Accmailers,
}
}1. What for you think web services put counters in they pages?
} They want to know how many hits has their page.
} Them if the page has few hits they change it or discontinue it.
} Its a "marketing" problem.
}
In most cases, the site owner has other, better, ways to get this
information. The counter on the page is for the viewer to see, not the
site owner.
}2. I accord that for mail services' servers the owners could install
} counters to know how much it is used.
} But the counters do not say to the owners nothing about users.
} The owner could not know that the accmailer has not other
choice.
}
Exactly! Many sites maintain logs that can be used for better
statistics. For example: one site publishes a list of what domains
access its main page, sorted with the dotted fields reversed, so that
mit.edu would be listed as edu.mit in the sort. If the mail servers
domains were unique enough, as they some times are, then the access via
the server would become more obvious. For the site to include a counter
for each of these (not necessarily a published counter) would not be that
hard, and would allow the relative access via server, vs. directly, to be
seen.
}3. The most of the people think that everybody has full access to
Internet.
} Do the servers owners know that there is a lot of people with
only
} email access?
} Do the servers owners know that there are near 3000 members of
} ACCMAIL?
}
Some know. The ones shutting down often do not care. It costs money to
maintain these servers, and cost cutting tends to dictate their removal.
Thus the adding of advertising, to defer expenses
}4. Do know some service owners that they server if the "only one" or
} one of the few ones that give that specific email service ?
} Do they know how useful that service is for a lot of people?
}
How many here remember Vigilant? The owner of THAT server knew! It was
a GREAT server. But he could not maintain it. Too bad.
}
}Now, I think, we the accmailers could "have not the right to
}demand anything from servers' owners" but in any case we have
}the right to "ASK" them.
}More yet, I think we have the ought to ask them.
}
}It is right that the most of the mail servers (not all) are free but we
do
}not ask to maintain it for a commercial use or end.
}To be an accmailer is not a business.
}
This is a major point! If users of a FREE service DEMAND that it be
restored, the host is LESS likely to be accommodating, than if they all
ASK that it be restored. The mail servers, unlike many (most?) web site
owners, maintain a complex set of statistics, that allow them to see that
the server is being used, and in some cases what for. A server that is
getting used exclusively to access porn sites, is more likely to go away
than one being used mostly to access informational pages. This is
especially true of servers based on .edu sites!
}If "they get 2500 pieces of mail", they will know how much appreciate if
}their services, how useful it is, and that they have not been working
for
}nothing.
}
}By instead I think that we make it not only for shut down services but
also
}to thanks to the owners of some very rought servers like the 3 www4mail,
}the 3 gophermail yet in service, the old agoras, some ftpmail and so
on.
}This may be a preventive procedure: Let the owners know how useful and
}valuable is their service before they decide to shoot down it
}I propose accmailers to do this for one server each month, what do you
say?
}
If 10% of users of 10% of the servers did this, I suspect that the server
owners would be SWAMPED with mail! In this case, this may be good!
}We also could elect the "server of the month" and let its owners to know
it !
}
}We must try to be one step before the problem !
}
8-} YES! And ONE person should forward a list of the last
three servers of the month to the owner of the newest server on that
list, along with the full text of the current months server description.
}Sorry by the long message,.
}Regards,
}garcibal.
Long message? Perhaps, but the content was there, even if English is not
your first language.
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