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Topics of the day:

  1. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
  2. NEWS: Monthly Reminder
  3. how to upload by ftp ? (2)
  4. (Defunct) Archie servers
  5. Interbot
  6. How to access news via gopher

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Date:    Sat, 2 Oct 1999 06:00:56 +0100
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics

FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Fri 1 Oct 1999, posted Sat, 02 Oct 1999 05:00:07 
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Date:    Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:16:23 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEWS: Monthly Reminder

===================== ACCMAIL Monthly Reminder =======================
Last Updated: 06Aug99

This message is intended to inform you what to do before posting to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the mailing list discussing "Accessing the
Internet via E-mail".

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P U R P O S E
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This list exists as a forum for communicating news, comments and
questions about the FAQ with the same name, written by Gerald E. Boyd

This is the place to find out about new versions, ask questions about
the current version, make suggestions for additions/deletions, etc.

Note: ACCMAIL is a MODERATED list, which means that all postings will be
sent to a human for review before being posted to the list.

Read the FAQs that are available.

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G U I D E   T O   O F F L I N E   I N T E R N E T   A C C E S S
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"Accessing The Internet By E-Mail" from Gerald E. Boyd
To get the latest edition, send e-mail to one of the addresses below.

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for US, Canada & South America)
Enter only this line in the BODY of the note:
  send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for Europe, Asia, etc.)
Enter only this line in the BODY of the note:
  send lis-iis e-access-inet.txt

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You can also get the file by anonymous FTP at one of these sites:

Site: rtfm.mit.edu
   get pub/usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email
Site: ftp.mailbase.ac.uk
   get pub/lists/lis-iis/files/e-access-inet.txt

This document is the standard document about accessing the internet via
email. You shouldn't ask questions already covered in this document.

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4 U   S E R I E S
=================

"The 4u-series" from Bob Appleton - NO LONGER MAINTAINED

These files show in specific detail how to use email to
retrieve files, programs and documents from FTP and WWW sites, etc.
In other words, how to get just about anything by email.  The files
are FREE and everything mentioned in them is also FREE. You can now
get these files individually or together in zipped format as well as
in text format.  Substitute the file that you want in place of the XXX
in the URL below and add a line for each additional file requested.
Files available are:
email4u.txt   getit4u.txt   fun4u.txt  pix4u.txt
email4u.zip   getit4u.zip   fun4u.zip  pix4u.zip  4useries.zip

They are available via an autoresponder.
Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This will tell you how to get each of the documents.  They are the full
text, not zipped, so Juno users won't be able to get the email4u file.

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U S E N E T
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To learn about Usenet, Usenet access and newsgroups, Uzi Paz provides
a file that is invaluable.  If you are unfamiliar with these topics,
get this file before sending for other files mentioned in Bob Appleton's
document.

Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of the message
use ONE of the following:

Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (text version)
OR
Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (zipped and uuencoded)

send http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1131/ua.txt
send http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1131/ua.zip

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W W W   S E A R C H   E N G I N E S
===================================

If your question has something to do with www-search engines
like Altavista, Hotbot, etc, or in general fill-out-forms on WWW sites,
be sure to read "Accessing the Internet via email - User guide to WWW
search engines" by Gerald E. Boyd.

This faq covers the access to all major search-engines, there is a
document with an introduction (wsintro.faq) and also a document that
shows how to "crack" such a form yourself (wscrack.faq). All the
files are available as a zip file in wssearch.zip.

Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of the message
use the following:

send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsintro.faq
send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wscrack.faq
send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wssearch.zip

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=======================

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This will provide you with a list of documents that are available.

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M O N T H L Y   P O S T I N G S   E T C.
========================================

Gary Wines has made available THE "EM_AI MANUAL" which is a
FREEWARE collection of manuals for accessing the internet by email,
presented in an executable file with search, print, save, edit to file
features.

Included in this DOS program are:
Perry Rovers Anonymous FTP (FAQ)
Biran Edmonds FAQ Mailing List Etiquette
Gerald E. Boyd's Guide to Search Engines
Gerald E. Boyd's Guide to Offline Internet Access
Mailing List Etiquette by Brian Edmonds
Pix4u, Email4u, Getit4u, Fun4U by Bob Appleton

Also included are all kinds of other useful files...

Current MS-DOS version
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/mailnews/em_ai40.zip
Current Windows 3.x version
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/info/emaiw18.zip

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S U B J E C T   L I N E S
=========================

Mail should have a meaningful subject heading which reflects the
content of the message -- it helps others to find messages of interest
(and is necessary if you receive a lot of messages per day), and it
helps to follow a thread on a particular topic.

Non-meaningful subjects are:
1. empty or blank subjects
2. Subject: I need help
3. Subject: A question
4. Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest ....

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O F F - T O P I C
=================

Make sure your post isn't off-topic.  In particular, this mailing
list doesn't deal with topics like:

- Do you want to make $$$.
- I want to chat with someone.
- Hi, I'm new to the list and I want to make friends.
- General use of your computer -- instead ask a specific question like
  is there a FAQ available on modems?
- Where do I get this or that software -- instead ask how to retrieve it
  via email.
- Where do I find information on ??? -- instead ask how do I find
  information concerning ??? via email.
- Windows 95 problems -- instead ask where do I find information
  regarding a problem (email address, mailing list, web page. etc.)

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N E T I Q U E T T E
===================

DON'T include the entire contents of a previous posting in your reply.

DO cut mercilessly.  Leave just enough to indicate what you're
responding to.  NEVER include mail headers except maybe the "From:"
line.  If you can't figure out how to delete lines in your mailer
software, paraphrase or type the quoted material in.

DON'T SEND A MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS. CAPITALIZED MESSAGES ARE HARDER TO
READ THAN LOWER CASE OR MIXED CASE.

DO use normal capitalization.  Separate your paragraphs with blank
lines.  Make your message inviting to your potential readers.

DON'T send messages with HTML coding or MIME extensions.

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text ASCII to the list.

Make things easy for the recipient.  Many mailers strip header
information which includes your return address.  In order to ensure that
people know who you are, be sure to include a line or two at the end of
your message with contact information.  You can create this file ahead
of time and add it to the end of your messages.  (Some mailers do this
automatically.)  In Internet parlance, this is known as a ".sig" or
"signature" file.  Your .sig file takes the place of your business card.
(And you can have more than one to apply in different circumstances.)

If you include a signature keep it short.  Rule of thumb is no longer
than 4 lines.  Remember that many people pay for connectivity by the
minute, and the longer your message is, the more they pay.

Remember that people with whom you communicate are located across the
globe.  If you send a message to which you want an immediate response,
the person receiving it might be at home asleep when it arrives.  Give
them a chance to wake up, come to work, and login before assuming the
mail didn't arrive or that they don't care.

In general, most people who use the Internet don't have time to answer
general questions about the Internet and its workings. Don't send unsoli
cited mail asking for information to people whose names you might have
seen on mailing lists (especially *MINE*)

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software that works well, please inform the list. Likewise, for support
and help lines.

ACCMAIL uses LISTSERV "topics", which allows people to subscribe to a
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announcements about new servers, new tecniques, etc. please prefix the
subject line with NEWS:

If you considered all these files and my comments, your post will likely
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problems.

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mentioned here, or sometimes no answer at all!

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Date:    Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:44:22 EDT
From:    "Richard W. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to upload by ftp ?

How does one upload by ftp using accmail methods?

My son signed up for a free website with Webjump.
He has to use a pasword and user name when accessing the site.
Apparently all uploading at the website is done by ftp.

I looked through all the howto files and can't find anything about
uploading by accmail methods.

So how does one upload by ftp using accmail methods?

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Date:    Sat, 2 Oct 1999 13:02:59 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Defunct) Archie servers

Accmailers,

One of the members in Germany read in a computer magazine that
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has stopped its service due to unclear conditions of a software-license.

--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:37:48 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to upload by ftp ?

At 02:44 PM 10/2/99 EDT, Richard W. Miller wrote the following:

>How does one upload by ftp using accmail methods?

You can't do it...

--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:25:09 GMT
From:    Just Old Stewed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Interbot

I'm using Interbot v1.02 and have activated the option "Links in
clipboard (ftp and http) retrieved by mail automatically".

By default, the retrieval attempt is made via
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which is no longer active.

How can Interbot's default agora server address be permanently
modified to that of an active server? TIA...

Stewed

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Date:    Sun, 3 Oct 1999 08:11:04 +0700
From:    user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to access news via gopher

Hi, I am from VietNam. I know there 's a way to access news via agoramail
and gophermail. When I sent a mail to an agoramail server
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with the content:
        send news:comp.unix.answers.
And I received a list of subject which was discussed. I relied the mail
with the number of the link to the subject I want to read. But the answer
mail report that the news require cookie and the agoramail server don't
support javascripts.
I can't access newsgroups from VietNam but can access web and gopher. Is
there any way to access news instead of mail?

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