Yes, but since you need some random numbers for doing a TLS-PSK handshake
(ClientHello random) why a TLS-PSK client should no be able to generate
ECDSA keys?

--
Julien Vermillard

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Samuel Erdtman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Julien,
>
> The first one that comes to mind would be where Pre-Shared-keys are used
> i.e. symmetric keys. These keys could be factory keys used only to setup
> the PKI-keys.
>
> If you look at EST the server generated keys is also recommended to be
> wrapped in an extra layer of encryption in addition to the transport layer
> security (DTLS/TLS). So if the transport layer security is not absolute no
> keys should be leaked.
>
> //Samuel
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Julien Vermillard <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Samuel,
>> I wonder in which scenario a RNG is safe enough for running a DTLS stack
>> but not good enough for generating a ECDSA key couple?
>>
>> --
>> Julien Vermillard
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Samuel Erdtman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The company I previously worked for where looking into adopting EST for
>>> this purpose, the benefit of EST compared to cmp or scep was that it
>>> defined the process for server side generated keys, which could be
>>> beneficial if key generation would be to cumbersome for the device or if
>>> you don't trust the device to generate a "good" key.
>>>
>>> Maybe Shahid could give sold more updates since he was helping us with
>>> this project
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 2 June 2016, Julien Vermillard <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> In industrial or enterprise M2M/IoT application we often use PSK for
>>>> authentication, but more and more user want to enroll the device on their
>>>> public key infrastructure like they does with some routers using SCEP/CMP.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if it was explored to enroll devices, and renew certificates
>>>> on PKI only using CoAP and not HTTP?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Julien Vermillard
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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