On 26/02/2019 17:54, Jim Schaad wrote:


3. In section 8.3 - Is/Should there be a requirement that the
error also be registered in an OAuth registry?  If so then this
needs to be part of the expert reviewer instructions on this
registry.

The expert reviewer instructions already state this:

"Since a high degree of overlap is expected between these
registries and the contents of the OAuth parameters registries,
experts should require new registrations to maintain a reasonable
level of alignment with parameters from OAuth that have comparable
functionality."

This includes the error registry, do you think this is
sufficiently clear or should I elaborate?

The question I had was the difference between SHOULD and MUST be
registered.  The text there says - try and keep them in sync, but if
they are not it is not a problem.   If that is what you want then
this is not a problem, I was just validating this.

The intention of the "should require ... a reasonable level of
alignment" was "try and keep them in sync, but if they are not you need
a good reason for this".

Your alternate interpretation makes me think the text is not worded
strongly enough.

I think that this is basically the same thing.   The only thing that you might 
want to add is some guidance on what constitutes a good reason.

Ok how about this:

"... experts should require new registrations to maintain alignment with parameters from OAuth that have comparable functionality. Deviation from this alignment should only be allowed if there are functional differences, that are motivated by the use case and that cannot be easily or efficiently addressed by comparable OAuth parameters."




4. In section 8.4 - Is there a reason to require a specification
for this registry?  Should it be sufficient to have somebody
request that a mapping be registered and the DE approves it?  The
previous comment would apply
to
all of the mapping registries that are just mappings.

The idea is to prevent the squatting of low byte count
abbreviations by parameters that are not frequently used, thus
there is a range of different policies for different integer
abbreviation number ranges. (note: I'm following the example of the
CWT specification here)

Not requiring a document to exists could still allow this.  IANA
would still have the DE approve the assignment.


Ok so you mean not having "specification required" for -65536 to -257
and 256 to 65535 and not having "standards action" for -256 to 255 would
be ok?

Note that this would be different from the policy in RFC 8392 (CWT).

Yes I understand that this is different from CWT.  When looking at the 
registries you basically would write a specification which contains the 
following text:

If, for example , in section 8.4 it was already registered in the OAuth 
registry, then the document would boil down to:

Please assign a number in the "OAuth Grant Type CBOR Mappings" registry with 
the following properties:
Name:  grant_type_name
CBOR Value: TBD
Reference: [This document]
Original Specification: [The document for grant_type_name] in the "OAuth Grant 
Type" registry.

This seems like it is really overkill to have to produce a full specification with of one 
page when an email to IANA would seem to have the same info.   If you were defining a new 
grant type, then a full spec would be useful but it would also be expected to do the 
registration in the "OAuth Grant Type" registry as well as in this registry.


Ok now I get what you were going for. Sorry for the slow uptake, and you are indeed right. I will go through the mapping IANA sections and redue the applicable policies to "expert review required" and "private use" based on the number ranges.

/Ludwig


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Ludwig Seitz, PhD
Security Lab, RISE
Phone +46(0)70-349 92 51

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