Yes, thanks, Yoav.  Apologies to Randy and Kathleen for my terseness.

Eliot


On 11/24/15 5:46 PM, Yoav Nir wrote:
> I think Eliot meant RFC 5785 /.well-known/ locations, rather than well known 
> ports
>
> Yoav
>
>> On 24 Nov 2015, at 6:37 PM, Kathleen Moriarty 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Eliot, I don't think a scan is needed to make a decision
>> here.  Having managed several networks that would not have allowed you
>> access from some random scanner, I don't think you'll get all the data
>> you are looking for.  In a well managed network, the IDS/IPS should
>> detect that it is a scan and block all future probes once you hit a
>> small number of ports/IPs.  So you may get a small sample with
>> everything else failing within an address block.  Granted, not all
>> networks are managed well and you may get a good amount of data.
>>
>> If this connection was expected to a few servers, then a network
>> manager might just allow those only on the assigned port.
>>
>> Without any hat on, I agree that a port + 443 as an alternate is a good plan.
>>
>> Kathleen
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Isn't this precisely what .well-known was meant to address?
>>> fun small research project.  what percentage of well-known ports can
>>> you connect to from the outside to a machine inside cisco?  hell, to
>>> what percentage of well-known ports outside cisco can you reach from
>>> inside?
>>>
>>> well-known does not correlate well with open to access by IT security
>>> departments.
>>>
>>> randy
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>> Best regards,
>> Kathleen
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