I think it's Q281308, but having reread it I don't think it's quite the
same as the problem you describe.

There is fix with it.

Cheers

dave

-----Original Message-----
From: David Abbishaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 10 April 2002 15:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Policy


Yes,  theres lots of alias for this server,  as currently its also a
webserver using host headers.   Don't suppose you know if there was
a work around to the problem?

> Do you have DNS alias for the server? There is a problem with Win2k 
> where servers with DNS aliases can return this error when clients try 
> to connect. Can't remember the Q I'm afraid.
>
> dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Abbishaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 10 April 2002 13:11
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Policy
>
>
> I think we getting somewhere on this one,  from the clients browsing 
> \\domain.co.uk yields an empty explorer window,  however from the DC a

> 'Duplicate name exists on the network' error is displayed.
>
> Checked DNS,  there is a valid record for 'same as parent' which 
> points to the DC's IP address,  nothing untoward in WINS, so god only 
> knows where this is comming from.
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>
>>
>>  You won't be able to delete this because 
>> {31B2F340-016D-11D2-945F-00C04FB984F9} is the "Default Domain 
>> Policy".
>
>> It is marked with "isCriticalSystemObject" attribute. By default it's
>
>> not allowed to delete "critical system objects". Anyway it wouldn't 
>> be
>
>> too wise to delete Default Domain policy.  Try to restore "right" 
>> security on both GPO (with adsiedit utility  from support tools) and 
>> sysvol folder (with explorer).
>>
>>  Vladimir.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Abbishaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:27 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Group Policy
>>
>>
>> Sorry to sound stupid on this one,  but which tool would you se to 
>> delete this?
>>
>> BTW the (31B2F340-016D-11D2-945F-00C04FB984F9} directory does exist 
>> in
>
>> the sysvol share. ----- Original Message -----
>> From: davlloyd <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:40 PM
>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Group Policy
>>
>> Seen this error before when people had manually deleted the group 
>> policy directories in SysVol share instead of through an 
>> administration tool. Clients keep trying to get hold of it because 
>> the
>
>> object is still in the directory. Have a look for the object in the 
>> directory and remove the data references (the GUID for the GPO is 
>> (31B2F340-016D-11D2-945F-00C04FB984F9}). Not sure it will fix the 
>> problem but it will stop the  client attempting to download it!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> David
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David 
>> Abbishaw
>> Sent: 09 April 2002 21:44
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [ActiveDir] Group Policy
>>
>> Come across a very strange error during client operation (W2K / XP) 
>> basically the machine becomes intermittantly very slow and loses 
>> access to shares/printers always login is painfully slow ~ 3 
>> -5minutes.
>>
>> The event log is showing the following error :
>>
>> Windows cannot access the file gpt.ini for GPO
>> CN={31B2F340-016D-11D2-945F-
> 00C04FB984F9},CN=Policies,CN=System,DC=domains,DC=co,DC=uk.
>> The file must be present at the location
>> <\\domain.co.uk\sysvol\domain.co.uk\Policies\{31B2F340-016D-11D2-945F
>> -
> 00C04FB984F9}\gpt.ini>.
>> (The network path was not found. ). Group Policy processing aborted. 
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at 
>> <http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp>
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>
>> When trying to goto \\domain.co.uk <file:///\\domain.co.uk>  an empty

>> explorer window is displayed.  Also it looks like someone has messed 
>> with the sysvol permissions as the everyone group only had list and 
>> not read access, and changing these back had no effect. Any 
>> suggestions really welcome.
>>
>> regards
>> David.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "davlloyd" <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Administration Tools Suvey
>>
>>> FAZAM is now part of the NetIQ Policy Management suite so it would 
>>> be
>
>>> worth going straight to NetIQ.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
>>> Sent: 09 April 2002 08:18
>>> To:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
>>> Administration Tools Suvey
>>>
>>> For Group Policy administration FAZAM 2000 from FULLAMOR has some 
>>> good features, including reporting. 
>>> <http://www.fullarmor.com/solutions/group/>
>>>  http://www.fullarmor.com/solutions/group/
>>> As with many 3rd party products the price tag may be a problem. 
>>> Microsoft is in the process of a developing a new Group Policy 
>>> Management Tool, which is currently in a closed Beta program and may

>>> not be available for a while.  The feature set has a large overlap 
>>> with FAZAM 2000 and if your timescales are undemanding it may be 
>>> worth talking to your TAM about it.
>>>
>>> NetIQ's DRA appears to be very popular.  In some environments it may

>>> not offer the level of granularity of delegation management required

>>> and I know some companies who, having bought DRA, are now doing some

>>> in-house development for Group management.
>>>
>>> Because 3rd party tools can be expensive, the other option is to 
>>> script a lot of the administration and reporting.  The .NET 
>>> framework
>
>>> also makes it easier to develop in-house web administration tools 
>>> for
>
>>> AD.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: "Ayers, Diane" <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:12:13 -0700
>>>
>>> MessageWe are currently looking at our current tool set and are 
>>> evaluating if we want to replace or stick with what we have.  We 
>>> have
>
>>> been using Mission Critical's "Enterprise Administrator" since 1997 
>>> in our NT 4.0 environment.  Back in 1997 there were only two vendors

>>> that had an "enterprise" level delegate admin tool and in our 
>>> opinion, Enterprise Admin was the best tool.  It has worked well in 
>>> that setting and has
> enabled
>>> us to
>>> apply granular delegation to the domain structure and control the 
>>> administrator role.  Since then EA and been acquired by NetIQ and is

>>> now know as Domain and Resource Administrator (DRA)
>>>
>>> We are moving toward a native AD environment for aprox 20,000 folks 
>>> and we are using the opportunity to re-evaluate the tools we have 
>>> and
>
>>> are looking
>>> at NetIQs DRA and Fastlane's (Quest) Active Roles as well as others
>>>
>>> Each tool has it strengths and weaknesses.  DRA is built around a 
>>> "proxy service" and the service makes the changes on behalf of the 
>>> user. Active
>>> roles is built around the native ACLs of AD.   The bottom line for
us
>>> is going to be how well the tools we integrate into our processes.
>>>
>>> If you want to drop me a line, I'll give you my number and I can let

>>> you now where we are at in our evaluation process.  Send it to my 
>>> work address at  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> Diane Ayers
>>> Tech Lead, Active Directory Deployment
>>> San Francisco / Sacramento
>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd
>>> (CIT)
>>> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:03 AM
>>> To:  <mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'>
>>> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [ActiveDir] AD 
>>> Administration
>
>>> Tools Suvey
>>>
>>>
>>>   Our group is in the process of evaluating some 3rd party tools to 
>>> assist in delegation and administration of our Active Directory 
>>> technology. We are evaluating the products based on 6 key areas.
>>>
>>>   1.  Role / Trustee delegation
>>>   2.  Control View of resources
>>>   3.  Data Validation & Rule Sets
>>>   4.  Group Policy Management
>>>   5.  Reporting
>>>   6.  Web based administration
>>>
>>>   We are also evaluating Native Delegation vs Proxy based 
>>> Delegation.
>>>
>>>   What I am fishing for from this community is some experiences and 
>>> possibly some recommendations from this group on some of the Admin 
>>> consoles you folks use.
>>>
>>>   Thanks
>>>
>>>   Todd
>>>
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