Note the bottom paragraph of the Q article -

"In a Mixed-mode domain, universal groups cannot be created. If a
Windows 2000-based computer is located in a down-level or Mixed-mode
domain, different behavior occurs. Other domains may be in Native mode
and universal groups may have been created that contain the user as a
member. The domain controller authenticating the logon request will add
the SIDs of the global groups of which the user is a member to the
user's token and the local computer adds SIDs for groups of which the
user is a member on the local computer as appropriate. When an attempt
to use resources in another domain occurs, the computer hosting the
resource contacts a domain controller for that domain, which adds the
SIDs of the groups local to that domain (which may include universal
groups) of which the user is a member to the user's token. "

EN states he's in mixed-mode.  GC's are of minimal use in a mixed-mode
environment - and clearly play no part in Group SIDs as the LSA handles
that for Global and LD groups.  The GC only cares when we're dealing
with Universals.

Tested this two years ago to prove it out to a customer.  They are
mandatory for Exchange 2000.  Not, however for mixed mode logon.  GC's
are nice to have, especially if you want to use UPNs for logon.  

In fact, if EN is using UPN's, the user will be denied.

Rick Kingslan - Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000]
  Microsoft Certified Trainer
  MCSA, MCSE+I - Windows NT / 2000
  
"Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic."
  ---  Arthur C. Clarke


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al 
> Lilianstrom
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 2 AD DCs but only one accepting 
> authentication
> 
> 
> You can't logon with out a GC. So when DC1 goes away so will 
> your ability to logon. See 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q21697
0 for more.

        al

> EN wrote:
> 
> I have 2 AD DCs, and when the first created DC of the domain fails, 
> the 2nd DC doesn't accept logons. I'm running mixed mode the GC only 
> being on the first DC shouldn't matter right?  Has anyone else
> encounted this type of problem?  When I promoted the 2nd server to a
> DC, everything went smoothly,
> sysvol and netlogon shares were created properly.
> 
>   Each DC has a DNS server as well, with the 1st DC having an AD 
> Integrated DNS, while the 2nd has a Primary DNS, and yet another stand

> alone has a secondary dns.  All the dns records "seem" right, in that 
> the svr records are showing up in each DNS server.
> 
>   Any ideas on what too look for to maybe solve this problem?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Ernesto
> 

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