AutoDL's not quite to the usual MS installation routine standard, though it is pretty easy. With a set of logical(ish) thinking programmers you should be able to look after the SQL side of it without too much trouble I'd imagine.
Darren. -----Original Message----- From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 July 2002 16:51 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration...cont. I noticed that AutoDL required a SQL Server. We do not have the expertise inhouse for SQL that is why we are looking to developing a inhouse program. We do have programming expertise inhouse. -----Original Message----- From: Darren Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration...cont. Yes, as far as I know, it has to operate on DL's in a native mode domain, which would be fine in the environment you mention. I'd take a look at the AutoDL functionality, it delegates a lot of the management of groups to users (i.e they request to be added to groups etc.). It also has a few interesting features such as alias length limits and DL expiry. You'll need a decent SQL person to admin the resulting DB too. Darren. -----Original Message----- From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 July 2002 15:08 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration...cont. If we created an inhouse DL manager, would we be able to keep the DL's in the root domain and be able to add memebership from other domains as long as they are Universal groups by making everyone use this custom prog? What if my child domains are mixed mode and my root domain is native mode? Will this cause a problem? Justin A. Salandra, MCSE Senior Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare System 914.681.8117 office 646.483.3325 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Darren Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration AutoDL - on the Exchange 2000 resource kit. An unsupported MS product that provides a web front end to distribution list management and extends the supported feature set. Very useful, though a pain in the rear to setup. There's a document entitled 'The Ultimate Guide to AutoDL' or something similar on technet. MS use it internally for their DL management, well did at some point, I'm sure it's been upgraded since then! Darren. -----Original Message----- From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 June 2002 18:43 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration What is AutoDL? Can you send me some info on that Justin A. Salandra, MCSE Senior Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare System 914.681.8117 office 646.483.3325 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Darren Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration >> Then of course reboot all the domain >> controllers in the child domain so the GC's would accept MAPI requests ( >> a must for actually migrating the user accounts). They won't service exchange 2000 because the relevant provider doesn't run until the GC's are rebooted after they're promoted. Each GC needs to be rebooted once promoted, presumably after the SYSVOL replication if it's just been dcpromo'd. >> What if I was to setup an ADC for each domain I configure, is that >> possible? That should be OK, as the ADC checks against a GC in the forest when it's determining whether to create a new object or match it to an existing one. >> My DL's are universal distribution groups,wouldn't this solve that issue >> of updating membership through a MAPI client? I'm afraid not - the GC that the MAPI clients talk to is only capable of reading universal group membership (as it's replicated), though it cannot be modified if it's in a different domain. We've taken to using AutoDL instead.... Darren. -----Original Message----- From: Burns, Clyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 June 2002 18:29 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration In my situation of an empty root domain with production domain (where the users and exchange 5.5 are) as a child was to setup the adc connector on one of the root DC's after running forestprep in the root and domain prep in the root and the child domain. I then configured the connection agreements between the exchange 5.5 server to the directory service in the child domain. I did have to do some extra steps with the root level adc service account, such as make it a service account admin in the exchange 5.5 org/site/configuration and a local admin of the new 2000 exchange server. Then of course reboot all the domain controllers in the child domain so the GC's would accept MAPI requests ( a must for actually migrating the user accounts). Clyde Burns -----Original Message----- From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:05 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration What if I was to setup an ADC for each domain I configure, is that possible? I can see where you are coming from when users are created in Exchange then sent over to AD. Similar too with DL's and Custom Recipients. I am going to have to be careful on how I set that up. My DL's are universal distribution groups, wouldn't this solve that issue of updating membership through a MAPI client? Justin A. Salandra, MCSE Senior Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare System 914.681.8117 office 646.483.3325 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Darren Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Justin, Just trying to get my head around this, you intend to install the ADC, then setup recipient CA's for your users in 5.5. In your environment you'd need multiple CA's from the Exchange Site into each domain in which you have Primary NT accounts associated with mailboxes in the store. So, that would replicate the 5.5 organisation information, public folder hierarchy etc etc into the AD, then the RCA's would equivalent objects in the AD. When you create a Windows 2000/Exchange 2000 user, the RUS would stamp it, then the information would be replicated back to the 5.5 directory by the ADC. However, to quote MS "For Exchange Server Custom Recipients, Distribution Lists, and Mailboxes which do not have a corresponding Active Directory user object, the ADC creates new objects in one of the Active Directory domains. You will need to decide in which Active Directory domain you want the ADC to create new objects." As far as the ADC goes, just follow the usual MS guidelines about port clashes with DC's, and I'm sure you'll be fine. The only problem I could perceive is that of updating distribution lists from a MAPI client. When we had clients that used a local GC (not in the same domain as the DL's) then we could not update DL's through MAPI. Anyone else seen this? Any workarounds? Well, I'm still not sure I've answered the question, or even know what the question was apart from 'what about the ADC'. Darren. -----Original Message----- From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 June 2002 17:11 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration No that is what I wanted to hear, I will only have one Exchange site, but multiple domains, so if I do a domain prep in each domain I should be okay, but my original question was what about the ADC? Keep in mind I still use exchange 5.5. -----Original Message----- From: Darren Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration That You might have to clarify that a little, as: An Exchange organisation exists in the configuration naming context of the forest, and is therefore forest wide (thus only one Exchange org per forest). If you wish to locate users/servers in more than one AD domain, you'll need to domain prep that domain to setup the relevant objects. The complication with usually lies with multiple Exchange sites, not multiple domains. Perhaps I've missed the point!! Darren. -----Original Message----- From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 June 2002 15:49 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [ActiveDir] Migration How would the ADC work if I have multiple AD domains and only one Exchange Org located in the root domain of my domain tree? Justin A. 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