Darren,

I'm still ignoring you from last time. ;-)

Actually, I think the KB article is misleading.  If you read the whole article, you 
will see that it refers to two different policy settings: one in the Computer 
configuration and another in the User configuration.  These are two completely 
separate settings.

The first one (Computer configuration) refers to, "Allow system to be shut down 
without having to log on".  

The second one (User configuration) refers to, "Disable and remove the Shut Down 
command". 

I suspect that the problem Jochen is having relates to the second policy setting, the 
explanation for which is shown below:

"Prevents users from shutting down or restarting Windows.

This policy removes the Shut Down option from the Start menu and disables the Shut 
Down button on the Windows Security dialog box, which appears when you press 
CTRL+ALT+DEL.

This policy prevents users from using the Windows user interface to shut down the 
system, although it does not prevent them from running programs that shut down Windows.

If you disable this policy or do not configure it, the Shut Down menu option appears, 
and the Shut Down button is enabled."

Hope this clears things up a bit.

Tony

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Darren Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:08:04 +0100

Tony,
 
Maybe I read that wrong, but I thought the problem was that the users could shut their 
machines (i.e workstations) down, but they have to logout first then use the shutdown 
button which the technet article you describe enables. The problem would therefore be 
the inablility to choose shutdown from the start menu. Or maybe it's just me 
misinterpretting things again!
 
Darren

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
        Sent: Thu 04/07/2002 12:42 
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Group Policies are killing me (infact, the users are)
        
        

        Is this any good to you?
        
        http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q313924
        
        Tony
        
        ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
        From: "Jochen Andries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 07:39:44 +0200
        
        Hello,
        
        I just configured my DC and AD.  But now, when people want to log out of =
        the network, they first have to log off, then push Ctrl-Alt-Del, then =
        choose shutdown and then shutdown the system.
        
        I didn't configured any Group Policy :-((  Any Idea ?????
        
        
        Greetings,
        
        Jochen Andries
        ICT-Manager
        Jabbeke -- Belgium
        
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