> Oh, and this all does assume that YOUR network engineers TELL you when
> they put in a whole 'nother group of networks or sub-netted something
> that you already had defined.  No, really - I'm not bitter....

Glad to know that happens elsewhere, too. 

------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sites with no DC
> 
> 
> I'd agree with Roger on this one - unless you don't mind machines in
> Pnsacola FL. Authenticating in Reno, NV.  If we don't have one of our
> subnets defined to some site, we see messages from the 
> Locator reporting
> that some machine at some site with the subnet xx.xx couldn't find an
> associated site.  It suggests that you might want to create a 
> subnet for
> it.
> 
> If these types of events are rare, or there are a small number of
> un-associated machines, or, if you have boatloads of 
> bandwidth, then it
> might not be a problem.
> 
> I'd take chance out of the equation and just create the subnets and
> associate them with your hub until you have a clearer idea of what the
> traffic pattern should be.
> 
> Oh, and this all does assume that YOUR network engineers TELL you when
> they put in a whole 'nother group of networks or sub-netted something
> that you already had defined.  No, really - I'm not bitter....
> 
> Rick Kingslan - Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000]
>   Microsoft Certified Trainer
>   MCSA, MCSE+I - Windows NT / 2000
>   
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology
> is indistinguishable from magic."
>   ---  Arthur C. Clarke
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Roger Seielstad
> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:59 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sites with no DC
> > 
> > 
> > >From experience, I wouldn't trust the locator to get 'close' very 
> > >often.
> > 
> > During our initial deployment, the WAN team changed the IP 
> > pools of our VPN concentrators. After looking through some of 
> > the logs on domain controllers, we were seeing a very random 
> > distribution of authentication, with some authentication 
> > happening 4 WAN hops away, when there were multiple DCs on 
> > different local subnets.
> > 
> > I'd strongly suggest creating a subnet object for each subnet 
> > on your network, and associating each of them with a site.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Garello, Kenneth [mailto:KGarello@;worcester.edu]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:07 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sites with no DC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > How much overhead does leaving it up to the locator incur?
> > >  
> > > Ken
> > >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:gilk@;netpro.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:37 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sites with no DC
> > >  
> > > Hey Don,
> > >  
> > > Is this your first post to the list? If so, welcome.
> > >  
> > > To answer your question, no you don't have to create a site
> > > for each subnet. You can associate multiple subnets with a 
> > > single site. Or you can leave the subnets unassigned, and the 
> > > DC locator will do its best to find a DC "close" to the 
> > > authenticating PC.
> > >  
> > > -gil
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: Don Murawski (Lenox)
> > > [mailto:Don.Murawski@;worldtravel.com] 
> > >   Sent: 
> > > Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:02 PM
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Subject: [ActiveDir] Sites with no DC
> > >   We have subnets without dc's, do you need to create a 
> > > site and subnet in Sites and Services anyway for those sites?
> > >    
> > >   Don L Murawski
> > >    
> > > 
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