Hi Justin,

I've experienced exactly what you describe (certain cr@p array controllers
not doing their job), and restoring the LAST GOOD backup and replaying the
logs is exactly the way to go IF your logs are on a separate spindle set.
If not, there is a good chance that one or more of the log files are corrupt
as well, in which case you will only be able to recover to the point of the
last good backup (meaning you will lose everything since the last good
backup).  If your logs are on a separate spindle set, and you aren't using
circular logging, then this is a no-brainer.  Restore!  It's much faster and
easier then attempting to repair the database.

ESEUtil can cause loss of data, so I would only use this as a last resort.

BTW, even if the logs are on the same array, I'd try the restore anyway.  If
you do what MS and everyone else have suggested (which is to copy all DBs
and logs first), you can always get back to where you are today and then
attempt ESEUtil.

HTH,

Linton

-----Original Message-----
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:49 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Thanks for the info, I have asked MS by e-mail if I could do a eseutil /mh
priv.mdb > output.txt, if they say yes I will do it tonight.  Also I do not
have circular logging enabled.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Burns, Clyde [mailto:Clyde.Burns@;nortonhealthcare.org] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:19 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to
Exchange 5.5) in restoring a known good database and replaying the
transaction logs and having to recover a corrupted database.  I would just
make sure to copy off all the contents of your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents
somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case then is you can get
Exchange back to its current state with a copy of your priv, pub, and log
files.

Some things to check first though. Go into the advanced tab under the server
properties in the 5.5 admin program. (Org -> site -> configuration ->
server) See if you have circular logging turned on or off. Ifs its off your
ok with restoring the database from tape and replaying the logs. If its on
you may lose data by restoring an older priv and pub.edb (though it don't
sound like it if you have 500+ separate log files)

One other thing to check should you decide to go the 'repair what you have'
route. 
Shut down all your exchange services on the server. Find the path for the
following 3 files. Dir.edb pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt on
the server and go the directory where each of those files are at and use the
following command
eseutil /mh priv.mdb > output.txt
Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. Open the output.txt file and look
about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. If all 3 say Consistent you don't
have to worry about the transaction logs. They have been committed to the
database. When Exchange 5.5 information store service is shut down it
commits the contents of the logs to the database. If the logs are not
committed to the database for whatever reason the header dump will show the
database to be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you could either
move all of the edb*.log files out of your mdbdata directory or do away with
them manually (definately talk to MS PSS before doing this yourself if your
not confortable.)

Clyde Burns

-----Original Message-----
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Hello everyone,

I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good advice.

I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application log.

The chain of events went like this

I installed SP3 for W2K
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of conversion and
logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index Definintions)
On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config failed, I
replaced it 3 days later
Since then every time the online maintenance on the exchange database ran it
logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200)
And now ArcServe cannot backup the database fully and commit the logs to the
database so I now have 500 log files in my mdbdata directory.

MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed after I rename the
mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to copy in all
the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the database.  The
only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate
everyone over.

Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you feel that this
is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused these errors, was
it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?

Any help is appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org> 

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