Welcome, Joe. I am one of the biggest joeware leaches. On top of that, I get
to brag that I know you personally :)

D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
www.akomolafe.com
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Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:57 PM
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000 Domain

Perl rocks and thanks Robbie. :o)

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        Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:06 PM
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        Yeah, I like those joeware tools too :-)  He even does Perl!


        Robbie Allen
        http://www.rallenhome.com/

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                From: Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:30 AM
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                LOL, no problem, glad you like the tools, that is why I put them out
there.

                So many things lacking that need to be done... so little time, 
especially
when it is for free. ;oP~  I really have some serious updates coming for
ADFIND or at least I want them to be coming, I want to restructure and go to
V2 and add Security Descriptor stuff and decoding of more values like
useraccountcontrols, et al and also allowing reencoding of nice names into
blobs for searching if possible. However I expect that I will be gearing a
little towards E2K right now as that is what my paying job is throwing me
into now.

                Note that if you hadn't heard joeware has been getting shut down at the
end of the month or so every month lately so I moved it to a new provider so
that shouldn't happen for  a bit now. Man I got some serious flames when
that would happen too, made me laugh pretty hard. I also finally killed the
midi's that everyone bitched about. I started seeing how much bandwidth
those little things were taking up and decided I didn't like them that much
either. <eg>

                Anyway, thanks for the welcome. Hopefully I can contribute my share. 
:o)

                  joe
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                        Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:12 AM
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                        glad you are here, joeware rocks!

                        Don't think I have ever taken the time to thank you for the 
tools you
make available, not because I'm not appreciative, just fundamentally lazy.

                        So, thanks for all past joeware and looking forward to more :-]



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                        From: Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:37 PM
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                        Everyone kept saying, join activedir join activedir, so I 
stumbled in
fashionably late and three sheets to the wind... The only way to make an
entrance. ;o)

                        So where were we, I believe we were discussing slapping MIT 
Kerberos and
OpenLDAP on a Linux box and calling it OverActive Directory?


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
                                Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:28 PM
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                                Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installing Windows 2003 
servers to Windows 2000
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                                Mr. Richards.....  welcome to the party.  ;-)

                                Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
                                Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
                                Associate Expert
                                Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
                                Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:54 PM
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                                I agree with Rick completely. I work for a very large 
organization and
policy is policy. Not only will we not let you put them into our Active
Directory, I have a script that will find them and throw the machine objects
into an Enterprise Admin Access only OU and disable and smack the ACL of the
offending object if you someone sneak one in. So not only do they not get to
use the server anymore, they can't even use that server name again. We catch
more than a couple of occurrances of this and we take away their ability to
add anything and let their managers know that we did it and why.

                                While I understand why people want to put them in (I 
in fact want to as
well), we want a centralized controlled IT structure and the best way to
maintain or reduce costs is to have a handle on what is in production. We do
not have an official company load for W2K3 yet with all of the certified
drivers and antivirus software so we don't want anyone deploying anything on
it because anything they deploy we know will have to be revisited and is a
possible breeding ground of viri, worm's, and support issues with no
escalation paths.

                                Tough love I guess.

                                  joe


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                                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
                                        Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:24 PM
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                                        Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installing Windows 
2003 servers to Windows
2000 Domain


                                        Justifying it technically is going to be a 
problem, as there are no
real 'downfalls'.

                                        However - if they don't want them - stick to 
your guns.  Policy says
NO.  If there are any questions, refer to latter statement.


                                        Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
                                        Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
                                        Associate Expert
                                        Expert Zone - 
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


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                                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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                                        Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:48 PM
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                                        Has anyone come across any problems with 
installing the new windows
2003 servers to the Windows 2000 site.
                                        Running W2K with SP3 and Exchange 2000 all in 
native modes.  Our
company is having a storm of interns coming in and wanting to run projects
on a W2k3 server.    Other than it is against company policy not to allow
users to install servers, or even there own systems.   Management is trying
to come up with some negatives to this, other than just saying it is against
company policy.

                                        Ron Pennell
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