Deji,

You've got that over a lot of MVPs.  I've been waiting two years to meet Joe
face to face - and the one function that I can't go to, he goes.  Can he go
to Summit?  No....  Can he go to Win2k3 Server Launch?  No....

I'm beginning to get a complex.  Well, OK - I've been in therapy for years
for that, but, well...  Damn.  Nevermind.

;P

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  


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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:03 PM
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Welcome, Joe. I am one of the biggest joeware leaches. On top of that, I get
to brag that I know you personally :)

D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
www.akomolafe.com
www.iyaburo.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon


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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:57 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Installing Windows 2003 servers to Windows 2
000 Domain

Perl rocks and thanks Robbie. :o)

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Windows 2 000 Domain


        Yeah, I like those joeware tools too :-)  He even does Perl!


        Robbie Allen
        http://www.rallenhome.com/

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                From: Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:30 AM
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                Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Installing Windows 2003
servers to Windows 2000 Domain


                LOL, no problem, glad you like the tools, that is why I put
them out there.

                So many things lacking that need to be done... so little
time, especially when it is for free. ;oP~  I really have some serious
updates coming for ADFIND or at least I want them to be coming, I want to
restructure and go to
V2 and add Security Descriptor stuff and decoding of more values like
useraccountcontrols, et al and also allowing reencoding of nice names into
blobs for searching if possible. However I expect that I will be gearing a
little towards E2K right now as that is what my paying job is throwing me
into now.

                Note that if you hadn't heard joeware has been getting shut
down at the end of the month or so every month lately so I moved it to a new
provider so that shouldn't happen for  a bit now. Man I got some serious
flames when that would happen too, made me laugh pretty hard. I also finally
killed the midi's that everyone bitched about. I started seeing how much
bandwidth those little things were taking up and decided I didn't like them
that much either. <eg>

                Anyway, thanks for the welcome. Hopefully I can contribute
my share. :o)

                  joe
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                        Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:12 AM
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                        Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Installing Windows
2003 servers to Windows 2000 Domain


                        glad you are here, joeware rocks!

                        Don't think I have ever taken the time to thank you
for the tools you make available, not because I'm not appreciative, just
fundamentally lazy.

                        So, thanks for all past joeware and looking forward
to more :-]



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                        From: Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:37 PM
                        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


                        Everyone kept saying, join activedir join activedir,
so I stumbled in fashionably late and three sheets to the wind... The only
way to make an entrance. ;o)

                        So where were we, I believe we were discussing
slapping MIT Kerberos and OpenLDAP on a Linux box and calling it OverActive
Directory?


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                                Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:28 PM
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                                Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installing Windows
2003 servers to Windows 2000 Domain


                                Mr. Richards.....  welcome to the party.
;-)

                                Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
                                Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
                                Associate Expert
                                Expert Zone -
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



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                                From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
                                Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:54 PM
                                To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


                                I agree with Rick completely. I work for a
very large organization and policy is policy. Not only will we not let you
put them into our Active Directory, I have a script that will find them and
throw the machine objects into an Enterprise Admin Access only OU and
disable and smack the ACL of the offending object if you someone sneak one
in. So not only do they not get to use the server anymore, they can't even
use that server name again. We catch more than a couple of occurrances of
this and we take away their ability to add anything and let their managers
know that we did it and why.

                                While I understand why people want to put
them in (I in fact want to as well), we want a centralized controlled IT
structure and the best way to maintain or reduce costs is to have a handle
on what is in production. We do not have an official company load for W2K3
yet with all of the certified drivers and antivirus software so we don't
want anyone deploying anything on it because anything they deploy we know
will have to be revisited and is a possible breeding ground of viri, worm's,
and support issues with no escalation paths.

                                Tough love I guess.

                                  joe


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                                        Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:24
PM
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                                        Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installing
Windows 2003 servers to Windows 2000 Domain


                                        Justifying it technically is going
to be a problem, as there are no real 'downfalls'.

                                        However - if they don't want them -
stick to your guns.  Policy says NO.  If there are any questions, refer to
latter statement.


                                        Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
                                        Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
                                        Associate Expert
                                        Expert Zone -
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


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                                        From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pennell, Ronald B.
                                        Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:48
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                                        Has anyone come across any problems
with installing the new windows
2003 servers to the Windows 2000 site.
                                        Running W2K with SP3 and Exchange
2000 all in native modes.  Our company is having a storm of interns coming
in and wanting to run projects
on a W2k3 server.    Other than it is against company policy not to allow
users to install servers, or even there own systems.   Management is trying
to come up with some negatives to this, other than just saying it is against
company policy.

                                        Ron Pennell
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