Tony,

Appreciate the feedback - however, I do not understand the [your comment] use of the 
standard ADU&C vice the Exchange version.  Are you saying that the adds [manual and 
CSVDE] would be different if done on a DC that did not have E2K System Manager loaded? 
 In this case, both the manual and CSV adds were done on the same DC and being as this 
is a test bed scenario - E2K is also running on the DC.  Is there any way that this 
would affect replication in an exchange mixed mode environment?

R/Bill

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Friday, November 21, 2003 10:45 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: [ActiveDir] OT? ADDING CONTACTS

Bill

The difference is that your manual method uses the Exchange version of Active 
Directory Users and computers.  If you select the option to mail-enable the contact 
then it adds a whole bunch of attributes to the contact object in AD.  Compare the two 
extracts from LDP below, the first being a mail-enabled contact and the second not.

>> Dn: CN=Alfred Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom
        1> cn: Alfred Contact; 
        1> displayName: Alfred; 
        1> mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
        1> givenName: Alfred; 
        1> instanceType: 0x4 = ( IT_WRITE ); 
        1> legacyExchangeDN: /o=VMEX2003/ou=First Administrative 
Group/cn=Recipients/cn=AlfredContact; 
        1> distinguishedName: CN=Alfred Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        1> objectCategory: CN=Person,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        4> objectClass: top; person; organizationalPerson; contact; 
        1> objectGUID: f84228a6-7a7d-41de-be42-8877591f1467; 
        2> proxyAddresses: SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; X400:c=US;a= 
;p=VMEX2003;o=Exchange;s=Contact;g=Alfred;; 
        1> name: Alfred Contact; 
        2> showInAddressBook: CN=Default Global Address List,CN=All Global Address 
Lists,CN=Address Lists Container,CN=VMEX2003,CN=Microsoft 
Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; CN=All Contacts,CN=All Address 
Lists,CN=Address Lists Container,CN=VMEX2003,CN=Microsoft 
Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        1> sn: Contact; 
        1> textEncodedORAddress: c=US;a= ;p=VMEX2003;o=Exchange;s=Contact;g=Alfred;; 
        1> uSNChanged: 20782; 
        1> uSNCreated: 20780; 
        1> whenChanged: 11/21/2003 16:36:17 W. Europe Standard Time W. Europe Daylight 
Time; 
        1> whenCreated: 11/21/2003 16:35:40 W. Europe Standard Time W. Europe Daylight 
Time; 
        1> internetEncoding: 1310720; 
        1> mailNickname: AlfredContact; 
        1> mAPIRecipient: FALSE; 
        1> targetAddress: SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
        1> msExchALObjectVersion: 21; 
        1> msExchPoliciesIncluded: 
{ECEFDA4D-8EEE-4CCF-A8DE-E8E00FAEE60B},{26491CFC-9E50-4857-861B-0CB8DF22B5D7}; 
-----------

>> Dn: CN=Bobby Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom
        1> cn: Bobby Contact; 
        1> displayName: Bobby; 
        1> givenName: Bobby; 
        1> instanceType: 0x4 = ( IT_WRITE ); 
        1> distinguishedName: CN=Bobby Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        1> objectCategory: CN=Person,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        4> objectClass: top; person; organizationalPerson; contact; 
        1> objectGUID: 71b94639-99f6-44bb-a393-50eeec2f2b93; 
        1> name: Bobby Contact; 
        1> sn: Contact; 
        1> uSNChanged: 20786; 
        1> uSNCreated: 20786; 
        1> whenChanged: 11/21/2003 16:38:57 W. Europe Standard Time W. Europe Daylight 
Time; 
        1> whenCreated: 11/21/2003 16:38:57 W. Europe Standard Time W. Europe Daylight 
Time; 
-----------

If you use the standard version of ADUC (dsa.msc) you won't populate all the 
Exchange-related content.

Tony

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Brown, Bill [contractor]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:34:24 -0500

Not sure if this question is off-track or not.  I would not think so as it deals with 
AD attributes.  But if it is deemed OT - then my apologies to the list!

If you add contacts into AD via CSVDE, you specify certain required attributes and you 
additionally specify certain attributes that you want populated with specific values 
and you additionally specify the OU into which the imported contacts will be placed - 
OK, pretty much straight forward.

If you add a contact manually in a specific OU - AD wants to know the Associated 
Administrative Group that this contact is associated with - OK, again pretty much 
straight forward.

But wait, that was a different step from the CSVDE import!  My question to the list - 
What AD attribute is populated by selecting the Associated Administrative Group in the 
manual method as opposed to the import method?

R/Bill



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