Joe,

Appreciate the feedback.  Would this affect replication in an exchange mixed mode 
environment?  Thanks...

R/Bill

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:56 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: [ActiveDir] OT? ADDING CONTACTS

Exchange modifies ADUC. It doesn't modify the underlying OS so it can't
force you to set attributes in CSVDE, LDIFDE, scripts, or ldap programs or
anything else that Exchange isn't aware of. 

Add a contact to your domain from a workstation that doesn't have the
exchange toolset on it, you will see a different reaction from ADUC. 

  joe 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brown, Bill
[contractor]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tony,

Appreciate the feedback - however, I do not understand the [your comment]
use of the standard ADU&C vice the Exchange version.  Are you saying that
the adds [manual and CSVDE] would be different if done on a DC that did not
have E2K System Manager loaded?  In this case, both the manual and CSV adds
were done on the same DC and being as this is a test bed scenario - E2K is
also running on the DC.  Is there any way that this would affect replication
in an exchange mixed mode environment?

R/Bill

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Friday, November 21, 2003 10:45 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: [ActiveDir] OT? ADDING CONTACTS

Bill

The difference is that your manual method uses the Exchange version of
Active Directory Users and computers.  If you select the option to
mail-enable the contact then it adds a whole bunch of attributes to the
contact object in AD.  Compare the two extracts from LDP below, the first
being a mail-enabled contact and the second not.

>> Dn: CN=Alfred Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom
        1> cn: Alfred Contact; 
        1> displayName: Alfred; 
        1> mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
        1> givenName: Alfred; 
        1> instanceType: 0x4 = ( IT_WRITE ); 
        1> legacyExchangeDN: /o=VMEX2003/ou=First Administrative
Group/cn=Recipients/cn=AlfredContact; 
        1> distinguishedName: CN=Alfred Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        1> objectCategory:
CN=Person,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        4> objectClass: top; person; organizationalPerson; contact; 
        1> objectGUID: f84228a6-7a7d-41de-be42-8877591f1467; 
        2> proxyAddresses: SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; X400:c=US;a=
;p=VMEX2003;o=Exchange;s=Contact;g=Alfred;; 
        1> name: Alfred Contact; 
        2> showInAddressBook: CN=Default Global Address List,CN=All Global
Address Lists,CN=Address Lists Container,CN=VMEX2003,CN=Microsoft
Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; CN=All Contacts,CN=All
Address Lists,CN=Address Lists Container,CN=VMEX2003,CN=Microsoft
Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        1> sn: Contact; 
        1> textEncodedORAddress: c=US;a=
;p=VMEX2003;o=Exchange;s=Contact;g=Alfred;; 
        1> uSNChanged: 20782; 
        1> uSNCreated: 20780; 
        1> whenChanged: 11/21/2003 16:36:17 W. Europe Standard Time W.
Europe Daylight Time; 
        1> whenCreated: 11/21/2003 16:35:40 W. Europe Standard Time W.
Europe Daylight Time; 
        1> internetEncoding: 1310720; 
        1> mailNickname: AlfredContact; 
        1> mAPIRecipient: FALSE; 
        1> targetAddress: SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
        1> msExchALObjectVersion: 21; 
        1> msExchPoliciesIncluded:
{ECEFDA4D-8EEE-4CCF-A8DE-E8E00FAEE60B},{26491CFC-9E50-4857-861B-0CB8DF22B5D7
};
-----------

>> Dn: CN=Bobby Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom
        1> cn: Bobby Contact; 
        1> displayName: Bobby; 
        1> givenName: Bobby; 
        1> instanceType: 0x4 = ( IT_WRITE ); 
        1> distinguishedName: CN=Bobby Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        1> objectCategory:
CN=Person,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; 
        4> objectClass: top; person; organizationalPerson; contact; 
        1> objectGUID: 71b94639-99f6-44bb-a393-50eeec2f2b93; 
        1> name: Bobby Contact; 
        1> sn: Contact; 
        1> uSNChanged: 20786; 
        1> uSNCreated: 20786; 
        1> whenChanged: 11/21/2003 16:38:57 W. Europe Standard Time W.
Europe Daylight Time; 
        1> whenCreated: 11/21/2003 16:38:57 W. Europe Standard Time W.
Europe Daylight Time;
-----------

If you use the standard version of ADUC (dsa.msc) you won't populate all the
Exchange-related content.

Tony

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Brown, Bill [contractor]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:34:24 -0500

Not sure if this question is off-track or not.  I would not think so as it
deals with AD attributes.  But if it is deemed OT - then my apologies to the
list!

If you add contacts into AD via CSVDE, you specify certain required
attributes and you additionally specify certain attributes that you want
populated with specific values and you additionally specify the OU into
which the imported contacts will be placed - OK, pretty much straight
forward.

If you add a contact manually in a specific OU - AD wants to know the
Associated Administrative Group that this contact is associated with - OK,
again pretty much straight forward.

But wait, that was a different step from the CSVDE import!  My question to
the list - What AD attribute is populated by selecting the Associated
Administrative Group in the manual method as opposed to the import method?

R/Bill



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