The ability to rename is no substitute for figuring things out right in the first place. But it is good that MS is working on making the functionality better and better for those poor souls who do indeed have to go through it... Say they are going into a company whose previous admins weren't quite as enlightened as the membership of this list and have no other options.
joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD screw up OK, now I'm confused. I've always known about the problems with renaming a Domain that has Exchange in it, because I've personally verified it in tests. I've always preached this to people who got hooked on the "Domain Rename" claim. I've always told them to pretend that they never heard or read that claim. So..... imagine my shock when I was told last week that "it works" by people whom I trust to know such things. My feeble attempt to disagree with that claim was muted by the question "have you tried it recently?". Of course, since I hadn't tried it recently, I sheepishly grinned and said "Wow! I must be slacking". I took their words for it. Short story long, I've since tried it "recently" after this thread shows up, and it still breaks Exchange. I admit I was hoping to surprise everyone on this list by being the first to respond "Hey, dude, have you tried it recently?". Well, burst my bubbles. It still does NOT work!!! After reading the list of breakable stuff, I am still more confused as to why MS has not deemed it necessary to stop talking about this "Domain Rename" thingy. Most people I know that would want to rename their domain are people that have at least one "breakable" application already in production in their Enterprise. Some of them will not read the fine prints of this claim, no matter how much you tell them about it. All they hear is "MS says it's now possible to rename a domain in Windows 2003! Wow! Cool! Hang 10!!" and shortly thereafter they'd go "Oooopsie! where's that latest copy of my resume?" I seriously hope that we can just dump this claim and let's go back to accepting the fact that if you screw up your domain name, well then just treat it like your own name - parents don't have a "renaming" ceremony after the original naming ceremony, no matter how much the kid hates the name afterwards :) Sincerely, D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE MCSA MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Active Directory www.akomolafe.com www.iyaburo.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Lou Vega Sent: Fri 4/16/2004 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD screw up True - you can rename a Windows 2003 domain (again not really advised), here's a link to the 80 page "step-by-step" :-) (http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/f/c/cfcbff04-97ca-4fca-9e8c-3a9c90 a 2a2e2/Domain-Rename-Procedure.doc). Also as noted in Bruce's post, if you have Exchange, the domain rename is not supported in any forest that has any version of Exchange. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Clingaman Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD screw up No. The domain name is not tied to the OU structure. I have read that you can change the domain name (not advised) in 2003, unless you are running Exchange, then you would be left with rebuilding the domain from scratch. ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Gainor Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD screw up Ok, how about this. I create a new child OU in my existing domain called corp. I then move all users and objects from the root domain to the corp child. Then I rename the root domain. Does that sound like it will work? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD screw up Create the new OU, then right click on the child OU and click Move -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Gainor Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD screw up I don't know where I get these stupid questions from. ok It looks like OU will work ok. I found info at Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/deploymentscenarios/sce n arios/ou_design_implement_ou_structure.asp now my question is - Since I already created an AD containing an OU of what I would like to be a child how can I create the parent to insert the child into. Or is that even possible? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD screw up You could do that, but are you sure you can't accomplish what you want to do with just one domain and a detailed OU strcture? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Gainor Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] AD screw up Not knowing what I was doing I set up an AD at my company corporate office. I then converted everyone over to it along with my Exchange server. Now I also have a couple of branch offices and want to create children. The mistake I made was that I did not set up an Empty Root Domain first. I setup the corporate domain as the first server. This is what I would like to do. Tell me if I am wrong or if you have any other suggestions. Root - ADRoot child - corp.ADRoot child - branch1.ADRoot child - branch2.ADRoot I do not want the domains to be internet FQDN. Drew List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
