Thanks for the responses.

joe - i only have the gateway defined on the public interface of the DC.

All - doesn't KB180094 imply that you *could* do what i am trying to do?  Am i 
misreading that?  This article <http://tinyurl.com/24wgl> seems to support the 
idea of being able to do this using lmhosts:

<snip>
Adding Domain Controllers by Using #DOM

Using the #DOM keyword to designate domain controllers causes the computer to 
add entries to a cache of domain names that the computer uses to contact 
available controllers to process domain requests.
</snip>

Also, from what i understand, as part of the logon process the client locates a 
DC using WINS, DNS or lmhosts.  so, again, this should work?

Finally - this is more of an exercise in curiosity than a project with a 
future (but thanks for the concern about my health, joe!).

john

Quoting joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I again have to agree with Al here. This is troublesome configuration which
> would add years of issues ot your life. :o)
> 
> Additionally, by any chance do you have gateways on both of the NIC configs?
> Just an FYI that that can bite you pretty nicely as well. 
> 
>   joe
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 4:48 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] locate DC, no DNS
> 
> If I understand you correctly, you want to have the lab workstation/member
> contact the lab DC via the private network only.  That about right?  Save
> yourself a lot of trouble and install DNS in the lab and keep them logically
> separate (network as well if you need to).  That'll also save you a lot of
> issues later.
> 
> Install DNS in the lab environment and remove the public interface.  You can
> transfer the zone first if you need to and then use that for lab purposes.
> Active Directory relies on DNS.  If you
> can't reference it, you can't have it.   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Singler
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ActiveDir] locate DC, no DNS
> 
> Folks,
> 
> Here's what i am trying to accomplish in a Lab environment.
> 
> Simplified:
> 
> 1 DC, 2 NICs (one on private network, one on public).  We use BIND DNS (no
> dynamic registrations) - DNS only available to public network. No WINS.  I
> have a machine that is a domain member, 2 NICs (one on private network, one
> on public) which i would like to exist only on the private network (no DNS
> available there) and still be a member of the domain.
> 
> I thought i could do this by mod'ing the lmhosts file and point the member
> server to the internal IP of the DC but so far that is not working.  The KB
> that i am referencing is:
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;180094
> 
> All OS's are w2k3.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> tia,
> 
> john






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