The #DOM entry will create a 1C entry for the domain on the local box when
queried, if you add the #PRE it will actually stick it in your netbios cache
right away and won't expire...

However, Windows 2K+ machines hitting Windows 2K+ domains don't use WINS,
they use DNS. Unfortunately the hosts file will not take SRV records which
is what needs to be found.

  joe



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Singler
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 8:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] locate DC, no DNS

Thanks for the responses.

joe - i only have the gateway defined on the public interface of the DC.

All - doesn't KB180094 imply that you *could* do what i am trying to do?  Am
i misreading that?  This article <http://tinyurl.com/24wgl> seems to support
the idea of being able to do this using lmhosts:

<snip>
Adding Domain Controllers by Using #DOM

Using the #DOM keyword to designate domain controllers causes the computer
to add entries to a cache of domain names that the computer uses to contact
available controllers to process domain requests.
</snip>

Also, from what i understand, as part of the logon process the client
locates a DC using WINS, DNS or lmhosts.  so, again, this should work?

Finally - this is more of an exercise in curiosity than a project with a
future (but thanks for the concern about my health, joe!).

john

Quoting joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I again have to agree with Al here. This is troublesome configuration 
> which would add years of issues ot your life. :o)
> 
> Additionally, by any chance do you have gateways on both of the NIC
configs?
> Just an FYI that that can bite you pretty nicely as well. 
> 
>   joe
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 4:48 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] locate DC, no DNS
> 
> If I understand you correctly, you want to have the lab 
> workstation/member contact the lab DC via the private network only.  
> That about right?  Save yourself a lot of trouble and install DNS in 
> the lab and keep them logically separate (network as well if you need 
> to).  That'll also save you a lot of issues later.
> 
> Install DNS in the lab environment and remove the public interface.  
> You can transfer the zone first if you need to and then use that for lab
purposes.
> Active Directory relies on DNS.  If you
> can't reference it, you can't have it.   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Singler
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ActiveDir] locate DC, no DNS
> 
> Folks,
> 
> Here's what i am trying to accomplish in a Lab environment.
> 
> Simplified:
> 
> 1 DC, 2 NICs (one on private network, one on public).  We use BIND DNS 
> (no dynamic registrations) - DNS only available to public network. No 
> WINS.  I have a machine that is a domain member, 2 NICs (one on 
> private network, one on public) which i would like to exist only on 
> the private network (no DNS available there) and still be a member of the
domain.
> 
> I thought i could do this by mod'ing the lmhosts file and point the 
> member server to the internal IP of the DC but so far that is not 
> working.  The KB that i am referencing is:
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;180094
> 
> All OS's are w2k3.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> tia,
> 
> john






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