WITO... I have heard of that before... I think I lived it for a while. I called it an exercise in teaching a manufacturer how little they actually know about their computing environment. :oP
Now after that walk down memory lane I will beat on you for a bit. Running a K3 in a 2K domain is fine, doesn't even have to hold the roles. Once you domain prep the domain you will have some SIDS in your AD that aren't resolving because the principals don't exist. It is good to make the K3 the PDC holder so those get created. Not required though. On the PDC/BDC concept, as it partially applied in NT4, there are no read-only DCs (aka BDCs) currently in 2K/K3[1]. There is scuttlebutt that that could possibly change but it doesn't matter. As it applies conceptually where you have a domain master for things then yes you have PDCs and BDCs. The roles can be split up so you don't have one specific server that is responsible for all of the roles but that is a pretty hokey thing to do in my opinion and I don't see the real benefits of it. It was just a stunt to avoid the one important DC concept for PR and in fact, that one important DC concept is still there though you can water it down by putting it on several DCs. The idea is if you lose the machines holding those roles though, you will feel some impact. Usually when someone tells me there is no more PDC/BDC concept and that all DCs are equal I tell them to move all roles in a domain to one machine and then shut it off for a few months without moving roles. Then come back and tell me how it worked out ofr them. joe [1] And actually there were no readonly DCs in NT4, only DCs that didn't allow you to make certain changes on them. There were still changes being written to those machines mastered locally, they just weren't replicated items - last logon, bad password count, etc. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] W2K3 with W2K2 Let's agree that there is no PDC/BDC concept. Now, if all you want to do is get your Domain ready for when you will eventually move to 2003, then you should just run the adprep /forestprep and adprep /domainprep in your domain and wait. IF you want to get a win2K3 DC into the Domain now, then there is this concept called WITO (hello, Joe :)). It's the "Walk In, Take Over" principle. The Win2K3 will have to get the roles, at least the PDCE and the Domain Naming master roles, otherwise your domain will not function correctly, and many of the benefits of a Win2K3 Domain will NOT be available to you. I have been able to get a win2K3 DC to install successfully into a test domain without transferring the roles or upgrading the DC that originally has these roles, but what I've heard and read is that is not something you want to do in a production environment. The people who taught me that (and wrote the book on that) are on this list. They may be able to explain further. Sincerely, D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE MCSA MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jacob Stabl Sent: Wed 7/21/2004 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] W2K3 with W2K2 I know this issue has been talked about before but searching through some old post in my inbox I didn't find the exact answer I was looking for. Is there a problem in joining a Window 2003 server as the BDC of in a Windows 2000 network? Will there be any problems or unavailable features? I don't want Windows 2003 to take over the domain. Reason for doing this is so next year if I decide to upgrade the domain to Windows 2003 it will be easier, I just move roles and such to that server. In my simple mind this all makes sense. Any suggestions? Thanks -- Jacob Stabl Network Engineer Plain Local Schools http://eagle.stark.k12.oh.us Work: 330.492.3500 x.383 Cell: 330.495.7243 List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
