However but for anything but the smallest of NT4 deployments you are almost
certainly going to end up working on a machinein production. You simply have
plans in place to help facilitate rollback such as offline DC's etc. Moving
accounts to a new domain is generally not feasible or such a complicated
expensive process that it doesn't make sense once you have any real size
domain. 

What would I do at home? I would rebuild everything from scratch. What would
I do for a environment of 20 users in an office? Consider rebuild from
scratch or possibly migrate. 60 users? Possibly migrate or possibly upgrade.
100 users? Possibly migrate but more likely upgrade unless there are serious
NT4 domain issues. Over that and I am almost certainly going to upgrade
unless things are really really bad. 

Note I won't keep the upgraded DC, a new fresh built machine will be
promoted and assume the fsmo's then the upgraded machine will be reloaded
and repromoted.

When you upgrade you can take a lot of bad things along with you, however
unless you have a good grasp of what you have you could have a lot of things
you don't understand breaking if you migrate. If you had such a good grasp
you probably wouldn't have a lot of bad things in the first place.

  joe

 

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 I personally do no like to mess with a system that is in production
already. You will be just hoping that nothing will go wrong with the
upgrade. I have had my share of staying up to 3:00 AM. 

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You could install NT 4 on it, make it a BDC and then upgrade it to W2K3.
That will upgrade your domain and bring over all the good things in it now
with users etc.

It will also bring over all the problems groups, users, security issues, etc
but nobody ever talks about that side of it.

James R. Day
Active Directory Core Team
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I have been asked this from a friend of mine and wasn't sure of the outcome
even though I have told him not to go ahead. I was just interested in the
implications and whether it can be done.
He has a customer with an existing NT4 domain one PDC that's it. He has
bought a brand new box and installed W2K3 dcpromo'd the thing and set up
users, thinking he could just add the box to the existing domain and
everything would be okay to migrate the users and data over.
I know this sounds pretty crazy, but it got me thinking what would the
implications of doing this and what is the best procedure for him at this
stage. If any.

Gary





















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