Heh. See previous note. Not a good topic from my viewpoint because a ton of
questions could easily be thrown at me that I have no clue how to respond
to. I am definitely not an expert on network tracing, it is something I
highly recommend people to do though. It can quickly cut to the chase and
stop the troubleshooting by "guessing and changing things" mechanism which
is too rampant in the industry.

The fun thing with what I know is I don't know the things I know that others
don't know. I tend to think everyone knows what I know. I don't think
otherwise until I see someone ask or say something that proves otherwise.
Basically I know what I know but I don't know what others don't know and
don't want to bore folks by telling them what they already know, or worse
yet, tell them something they know not to be true. :o)

Those who know me in person or through the list or newsgroups or wherever
know I can talk or type forever on many many topics and actually enjoy doing
so. When I was working on the E2K3 chapter for the K3 Cookbook I just went
and went on. I wa sprovided with an initial list of some recipes that were
wanted. That easy flowing happens when I have a seed to work from. Generally
a question of how does something work or how do you do something which gets
me started. At work it used to be someone telling me to do something and to
me they obviously didn't know what they were asking for or they never would
have asked and that gets me going to writing a nice novel on say the topic
of why Domain Local Groups can be a very useful thing in a large
environment. 

Overall I have always done better with informal discussions. I tend to get
toasted in a formal interview but as things settle down and it gets more
informal and turns into a chat I usually really start cooking. Back in 1996
I interviewed with the network services group of Ford Motor Company. The
position was for a Netware admin. At that point I had never even seen
Netware in real life, just heard of them. I also wasn't familiar with TCP/IP
except that I knew it was used by my PC when I occasionally would web browse
for programming info. I immediately blew the interview in the first 5
minutes. However the guys sat and chatted with me for another 2 hours and we
talked about the "old days" of working on DEC PDP-11's with RSTS/E and MUXes
and RS232 connections, etc. At the end of the interview I was told I was
second out of the 10 people interviewed. They had one guy who had a ton of
Netware experience who interviewed and if he didn't accept the position, it
was mine. Fortunately the guy accepted or else my career path would have
been very different. The next position I got was strictly on the basis of
informal chatting and concepts because I had no clue technically how to
support their environment. In fact, at the end of the interview they asked
me what position I wanted. My response was that I didn't understand what any
of them were about but they had spoken to me for a couple of hours (panel
interview with 7 people) and they knew better than I what I would fit into.
Within six months I was redesigning their network infrastructure systems
stuff. 

The best times I have had at teaching anything have been at a former job
where we took three or fours hours in a day, usually Wednesday and sit in a
room with whiteboards on the walls. We would just start talking about things
that happened that week or questions that came up in regards to issues we
tackled or emails I had sent where I had touched on something that someone
wasn't familiar with. These talks could turn to politics of the company or
the country or the world or traveling in space or into a talk on how ACLs
are layed out and what the different pieces mean or why you can't wildcard
search a DN or whatever else. These initially started when trying to prep my
manager for meetings he was going to. He had quickly learned he didn't want
me at the meetings unless he wanted people jumping on tables because I
either get warm or I would get someone else warm. That changed when my
manager changed and I got a UNIX guy as a manager. He would come to see me
every Wednesday with a stack of dilbert cartoons with Windows questions
jotted down on the back that we would tear through through the course of
several hours. It would be the hows, whys, what to respond withs, etc. I
mostly pushed the why's so it set up a framework for understanding the
reasoning behind responses. My manager liked it so much it became an entire
team event where everyone would come with questions, usually for me but
everything was always up for discussion because there was rarely only one
answer and sometimes it took debate to settle on the best answer.


  joe

 

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Joe is just being .... well .... Joe. I don't think it's so much because he
can't "think" of what to present as it is deciding on which of the numerous
things he CAN present he should present.
 
Something tells me, though, that if you can get Dean over to DEC (and make
sure he brings his laptop), Joe will lose all his resistance. Dean with a
Laptop full of hidden Windows gems is irresistible.
 
 
Sincerely,

D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon

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Sounds like a great DEC topic to me. And joe says he can't think of anything
to present ....;)

-gil

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I would like to be on this list as well.

Charlie

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Sorry to not add anything of import to your thread, Jeff; but I'd love to be
on the list for the "Capturing and Interpreting Network Traffic 101".

Dave


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Without pointing fingers, or mentioning "short" names, here's my stance on
sniffing traffic for diagnosis. It is a GREAT concept IF you know what you
are looking for. Merely firing up Netmon/Ethereal and such will not be
productive without the necessary capabilities to discern and interpret the
traffic. I know, because I was a victim. Took me a 3-hour call and
escalations to MS before I could resolve a whacky (OK, unique) problem where
Exchange insisted on doing NetBIOS name calls when I expected it to do FQDN
during a migration project. RASDIAG saved my life, thanks to the MS dude.

So, is there any interest in putting together something along the line of
"Capturing and Interpreting Network Traffic 101"? I volunteer to be an
active participant in the project. I think this will help many of our
audience on this list and beyond.


Sincerely,

D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon

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I'd load NetMon or Ethereal on both machines and capture the traffic.
Filter on the names / IPs of the two machines involved, just to reduce the
noise to just the important bits.



I suspect this will most likely uncover the problem much quicker than
anything else you could likely do.



-rtk



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Team EITC
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:46 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Remote Assistance



Windows XP SP2 machines



I have followed the guidance in kb301527
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301527>



The windows Firewall is turned off completely.  Both machines are in the
same domain.  A Domain admin on one XP machine is trying to offer assistance
to another XP machine.  I put the machine name in and hit connect and it
errors out saying connection failed. Cannot find any information in the
event log.
I am able to connect to \\machinename\C$ <file:///\\machinename\C$>  so
definitely have admin rights. 



Anyone have any other ideas not put into the above KB article?









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