Yeah, didn't think about this one when I asked the questing...Would be a PITA 
to find the person who screwed up or tried to screw us up :)

Thanks for the answer!

Francis 

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Totally agree, but in very large environments that group of trusted admins is 
going to have to be more than just one guy. I think 2 or 3 guys (depending on 
the size of the environment) is a pretty reasonable number provided that they 
are admins you can trust with that level of access.

And to answer Francis' next comment, I would never create a generic account 
with EA privs. I want to be able to track who did what if I have to comb 
through the logs after something happened and when you have a generic account 
how do you know for sure that Bob Smith was the one that logged in if 3 or 4 
people all have access to the same username/password? If you are going to have 
more than one person with that level of access then create an ID for each of 
them (separate from their general AD login).

Phil

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I wouldn't give those rights to a group... Just one or two people in the group, 
and only after proper vetting. Vetting would include the usual background 
checks and "good corporate citizen"-type evaluations, as well as AD technical 
knowledge.

Would you want them fixing an AD disaster in the middle of the night while 
you're asleep? Will they do the right thing, even when you're not looking? It 
really comes down to a matter of trust.

-gil

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Some thoughts on securing sensitive accounts....

What do you do when you have an AD support group than need access to Enterprise 
Admin privs if you only have one Enterprise Admin? I know I wouldn't want to be 
the only guy with those privs in the middle of the night on a weekend when I'm 
not on call ;)

Phil 

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Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 3:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Some thoughts on securing sensitive accounts....

 " Then you have your actual Enterprise Admins and that should be a small 
group, maybe 2-5 people depending on your size (I worked on a team of 3 people 
and supervisor for a 250,000 user deployment). "
 
So I'm assuming that you have more than 1 Enterprise admin in your root domain? 
Isn't that agains't all the white papers out there stating that you shouldn't 
have more than one ent. admin. in your forest and all other admins should be 
domain admins in their own respective domain? Or did you use enterprise admin 
as a generic term?
 
Thanks,
Francis 
 
 
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francis Ouellet
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Some thoughts on securing sensitive accounts....


Hi folks,
 
I'm was thinking the other day of the best way to secure schema and enterprise 
admin accounts. What would you do if you had "carte blanche"
to secure sensitive accounts in an enterprise directory?
 
First things that came to mind were using mandatory smart cards for SA and EA 
accounts kept in a safe where only designated employes knew the pins....Any 
other thoughts?
 
Thanks!
Francis Ouellet 
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