Agreed.. the newer CPU speeds and Hard Drives speeds do improve the defrag 
times. I also ran ISINTEG which took even longer. Looking back I should have 
ran it first before using the /d option with Esutil.

However I did find this : "Microsoft recommends a conservative 5 - 7 GB per 
hour for a defrag operation, which means that your server will be offline for 
as long as it takes, assuming no hardware failures will occur." 

Thanks for the feedback, 

Jose :-)

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat


Unless your processor is truly underpowered, it's an i/o bound activity and the 
speed of the defrag is directly related to how fast your disk is. 

If you use the "do not instate" switch (/p), then you will have to change the 
names of the database files yourself -- otherwise the DB you mount will be the 
old one. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:06 PM
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Ah man, don't tell me that it took 10 hours for a 30GB database...the one I am 
defragging is 91GB.


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:32 PM
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I am not sure I understand your point.. if he is trying to fix his bloat issue, 
this tool will do the same thing as Esutuil in compacting the database with out 
having to take down his exchange servers.

Last time I ran Esutuil on a 30gb data base it took nearly 10 hours to finish.

Jose

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I would never recommend a tool that does offline defragmentation as preventive 
maintenance.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:56 PM
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Want a simpler method? Try http://www.goexchange.com/, ( GOexchange is painless 
to use and saves you time by running automatic expert preventive maintenance 
while you attend to more important things )
 
You won't even have to take your Exchange servers offline to defrag the 
information and public folder stores.

Jose :-)

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KB192185 has good info on this. You are on the right path, IMO.
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
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Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? 
 -anon

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Sent: Wed 8/17/2005 10:06 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat



I guess I was thinking of using the /p switch because of a paragraph"

"Run ESEUTIL with the /p switch to configure ESEUTIL to create the new 
defragmented database on an alternate location (for example, to a location on a 
different hard disk). This switch lets you preserve your original defragmented 
database (which lets you revert back to your original database if necessary). 
This switch also significantly reduces the amount of time it takes to 
defragment a database, because you are rebuilding to a new location, rather 
then rebuilding the database in place."


I was thinking...hmmm, it takes less time, and I have a little more protection 
from something going wrong...sounds good to me. Comments?


And now that I think of it, my command probably needed a PATH for the new DB 
unless there is a default, but I won't know that till I run eseutil.



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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:17 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat

Well IIRC /p is a hard repair whilst /d is for defrag. If you have a working, 
mountable store that you want to defrag you don't need the /p switch.

Anyone got any comment?

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Sent: 17 August 2005 18:13
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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat

OK, so I have scheduled a window this weekend to run an offline defrag of the 
mailbox store. Now I am looking for the best way to do this, and since this 
list seems to have more/better experience with Exchange than the Exchange list, 
I am looking for comments.

Here are the steps I am planning on taking:

1. Full backup of "General" store
2. Dismount "General" store
3. > eseutil /d /p F:\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\General.edb             
                *Is it a good idea to use the /p switch (I have enough
space)
                **If using the /p switch, what is the mounting procedure for 
the new DB?

4. Full backup of new DB


Any comments are very welcome, and appreciated.


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