As Dean keeps saying, how about describing the actual problem as you 
see/experience it.  Could be something totally different. I'll bet somebody 
here would be helpful if they knew what to help with. :)

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Brad
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] User SIDs...


Looks like the PAC is intact, and all SIDs are well within the limit.  This is 
done from the user account that is exhibiting the problem.  I am at a loss on 
this one now....

Tokensz Results:

Name: Kerberos Comment: Microsoft Kerberos V1.0
Current PackageInfo->MaxToken: 12000

QueryKeyInfo:
Signature algorithm =
Encrypt algorithm = RSADSI RC4-HMAC
KeySize = 128
Flags = 2081e
Signature Algorithm = -138
Encrypt Algorithm = 23
   Start:8/19/2005 16:19:12
  Expiry:8/20/2005 2:16:44
Current Time: 8/19/2005 16:19:15
MaxToken (complete context)  1790 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 19 August 2005 14:56
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] User SIDs...

... it still doesn't look quite right, I'm thinking the issuing auth. is 48 
bits by itself but I've no recollection as to where I'm getting that from. If 
the precise length constraints remain important (following everything else 
already posted), I'll see if I can dig it up later when I return.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Wells
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:29 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] User SIDs...

The URL you supplied does not relate to a problem with the length of any one 
specific SID, it is describing a problem relating to the overall size of all of 
the SIDs that represent the identity of a particular user, i.e. user SID, group 
SID, SID history.  This identity information is known as the user's token (or 
PAC) and has a supported maximum (which has been steadily increasing with each 
iteration of the OS).  Beyond (or in some cases,
approaching) that maximum, many products utilizing the Windows authorization 
model will begin to exhibit erratic behavior or fail completely.

Regarding SID construct, they're comprised of a number of elements but since I 
don't have the doc. to hand at the moment (though I'm certain you'll find 
something through google) I'll offer what I remember of their construct -

Example SID -

S-1-5-21-2123478354-492892223-854245498-1113
   [1]       [2]        [2]       [2]    [3]

Breakdown -

[1] = I'm a SID, revision, issuing (or identifier) authority, sub-authorities 
and some additional metadata (don't recollect its size I'm afraid, I'd guess, 
however, at 32 bits broken down into some kind of ordered grouping to represent 
the afore mentioned elements)

[2] = domain component (96 bits I believe)

[3] = relative identifier (RID = 30 bits)

In addition, you may want to locate and download a Microsoft tool named 
"tokensz.exe" and run something like -

C:\>tokensz /compute_tokensize

Dean

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Dean Wells
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Brad
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 8:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] User SIDs...

Hello All,

Does anyone know the default length a users SID (Win2K DC's, WinXP SP2clients ) 
can be before problems such as http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=327825
<http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=327825>  start occuring ?  Also, there 
anyway to determine the actual length of a users SID???

TIA,

Brad


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