I think you misunderstand me.
 
i know the diff between the lDAPDisplayName and the display name that you see 
in the gui and that ldap,adsi,and all apps use the former.
 
i was just wondering what the relationship is between how the display name gets 
built, its relationship to the name displayed in the GAL(same thing?)  and 
chaning the format in the Display Specifiers node of the config NC.
does changing the Display Specifiers  change all future user object(if you 
change the User-Display prop) syntax in the ADUC gui (and other mmc's)AND the 
GAL or just the GAL.
 
Also, it was news to me that the name displayed when you view an object in ADUC 
is NOT the display name but the CN which made me think about the relationship 
between the CN and display name and how they are constructed as well as the 
origin of other names like DN and cannoical name which further made me thing of 
how MS uses/misuses names like domain(or boot partition) , confusing an already 
potentially confusing topic and confused admin.
 
Thats all.
 
thanks
 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Kamlesh Parmar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Thu 10/13/2005 2:19 PM 
        To: [email protected] 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Display in ADUC
        
        
        whenever I want to map the GUI of ADUC with actual attribute on user,
        
        I just create a test user, and set the specific property on user to 
something like XXXXX
        and open the adsiedit.msc for that user and check the attribute list 
with value XXXXX
        voila.. you got the mapping.
        
        you can do reverse also, set value in adsiedit.msc and come back to 
ADUC and see which property got populated.
        
        e.g. if you go to user properties and set the value of City = XXXXX
        you will find that it corresponds to attribute  L in user properties.
        
        Other application don't go by the GUI name of property in ADUC, they go 
by the actual attribute name.
        so if you know, the attribute name, which is  used by any application, 
above process will give you
        way to map GUI of ADUC with what application uses.
        
        I hope this helps.
        
        
        --
        Kamlesh
        
        
        On 10/12/05, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

                ok, so the Common Name is created from the First and Last name 
and in ADUC, the name displayed is NOT the displayName but the CN yet in the 
GAL it is the displayNmae that you see?
                And how is the CN affected by the DisplaySpecifiers node in the 
config NC?
                And in ADUC?
                And the GAL?
                 
                and changing this will only affect new users so you have to 
edit the displayName attrib of your existing users to get it uniform?
                 
                And how does AD create a cannonical name? Is it just a DN 
reversed?
                 
                And whats in a name anyway?
                Thanks
                
                 
                On 10/12/05, Mark Parris <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

                        F2 the users name and change it, OK it, you then get a 
different properties box, this should help to clarify the parameters. 
                        
                        Mark
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: "Dan Holme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
                        Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:55:21
                        To:< [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
                        Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Display in ADUC
                        
                        The Display Name is not what is showing in ADUC.  ADUC 
in the Name column is showing the CN.  The CN *must* be unique for an user in a 
specific OU, and therefore is the field that can be used to select and open the 
properties of a user object. 
                        
                        
                        
                        Right-click and RENAME the user.
                        
                        
                        
                        TIPS
                        
                        You will also want to think about adding more useful 
columns to your ADUC view:  View  Add/Remove Columns.  (Helps you sort by last 
name) for example. 
                        
                        One tip about that:  when you add a column in a normal 
AD UC node (e.g. add last name to a user OU)  that column will appear in 
*every* node (even in a computers OU) which is stupid and youll hate it.  Saved 
Queries allow you to have unique columns visible per query, so you could create 
a query that shows *anything* (even a show all users in this OU query) and that 
will let you add the last name column to just that query. 
                        
                        
                        
                        Dan
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On 
Behalf Of Ellis, Debbie
                        Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:37 AM
                        To: [email protected] 
                        Subject: [ActiveDir] Display in ADUC
                        
                        
                        
                        We have 2003 AD. I changed the display name of a user 
in their property sheet  but it still shows the old display name when you look 
at it in Active Directory Users and Computers. You can look at the properties 
and it shows the new display name.. What else do I need to do? 
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
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